Dump Truck recommendation

[4570Man]

I had a 95 k3500 mason dump with 350 and 4l80e trans. I got more like 7-8mpg. Idk how your getting 12 with a bed the shape of a box. My 2012 suburban hardly even gets 12mpg.

On a side note my state requires commercial car insurance on any dump truck and that first year it cost me $1400..for a truck I paid $800 for. I almost sold it after that. After about 5yrs it was down to about $600 a year. I have no accident or tickets on my record for the previous 10yrs. I also dont live in a city. I'm glad the truck is gone now as a trailer does nearly the same as a mason dump with less expenses.

My ton with a 6.5 turbo diesel averaged 11 mpg loaded or empty.

 

[Hay Dude]

I had this dump truck years ago and it was pretty simple to fix, even with 4WD & diesel engine.

 

[4570Man]

I had this dump truck years ago and it was pretty simple to fix, even with 4WD & diesel engine.

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I saw this truck on marketplace the other day with 455 hp and a 10speed transmission. Why can’t you find a single axel dump with that kind of power?

 

[jjeff]

My ton with a 6.5 turbo diesel averaged 11 mpg loaded or empty. View attachment 782759

My old dumper doo.

 

[Hay Dude]

I saw this truck on marketplace the other day with 455 hp and a 10speed transmission. Why can’t you find a single axel dump with that kind of power? View attachment 782786

What are you talking about?
You can order one, but most vocational trucks have low power to keep them going slow down the road and lasting many years on lower power.

 

[nisaacs]

What are you talking about?

He wants a single axle dump with big power, like the single axle tractor in the picture.

 

[nisaacs]

I am starting to shop for a dump truck. You can usually find one not for much more than a dump trailer, and my Tacoma can't tow that much, and a dump truck is more manurable.
I need it to be able to haul my Kubota L3430 (about 7k lb with backhoe, plus trailer) and a load (gravel, dirt, wood chips)
I'd like one based on a 1 ton+ truck, bc my tractor can only lift 8 feet, and anything heavy like boulders I plan to
Anything you can recommend for 10k or less? old and ugly don't scare me much, but rusty and leaky is something I will avoid.

So far I seem to find that most 1 tons with dump bodies seem to have weaker/cheapest engines and may not be good to haul and tow.
4x4 also seems to be a rarity, but maybe less of a big deal on a dump truck, although in order to make out of my drive steep drive way typically helps.


Any tips appreciated.

Here you go, even in your location.

https://www.machinerytrader.com/listing/for-sale/214909481/1994-ford-ln8000-dump-trucks

 

[Hay Dude]

He wants a single axle dump with big power, like the single axle tractor in the picture.

I know a few guys who run 400HP single axle road tractors converted to dumps. Still can’t load bed with much and tow at same time. Suck down a lot of fuel, too. Most can only handle a 9’ bed.
That Old Dominion truck has seen a lot of miles and backfires in the driver seat, too lol

 

[nisaacs]

My ton with a 6.5 turbo diesel averaged 11 mpg loaded or empty. View attachment 782759

You are only about 4k over gvw, my kinda load The 3500HD's of that era were good, heavy duty trucks. Better than the early Ford Super Duty's.

 

[4570Man]

You are only about 4k over gvw, my kinda load The 3500HD's of that era were good, heavy duty trucks. Better than the early Ford Super Duty's.

That’s a regular 3500 not a 3500hd. If it was an hd it wouldn’t be overloaded.

 

[nisaacs]

That’s a regular 3500 not a 3500hd. If it was an hd it wouldn’t be overloaded.

Yes, I am aware of that.

 

[jjeff]

Ever look at a side x side comparison of earlier generations 3500 vs 3500 HD? they are pretty significant. I only owned the 3500.

 

[crashz]

What was a typical GVWR for the 3500HD's? The ones with the old 454 and 4L80e would be a nice reliable rig. I think another rare bird is the same truck with a 5 speed (NV4500).

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

You can argue a Ford is built heavier but a 3500 Chevrolet with either a 5.7 or 6.0L are both proven, reliable engines that are cheap to fix.

I'm really pretty much straight Ford. But the 5.7 is good because of availability. The 6.0 is just good, all around.

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

Ever look at a side x side comparison of earlier generations 3500 vs 3500 HD? they are pretty significant. I only owned the 3500.

I have a 96 3500 HD, it is a different cat. Straight front axle. 19.5 wheels. I am holding off putting it back on the road. I found another one that has a pulpwood loader on it. Converted to haul long logs. If I can get that one for a parts truck to have, I'll go all out and put it back in service. Mine is a service truck with a 12' tool bed.

 

[4570Man]

Ever look at a side x side comparison of earlier generations 3500 vs 3500 HD? they are pretty significant. I only owned the 3500.

A 3500HD was really more like a low pro Topkick vs a regular 3500. The weak link to the HD was a substandard drivetrain. If you had an 8.1 with an Allison automatic you’d have had a nice ride. The 6.5 and the 4l85 was lacking. A 454 with a NV4500 would have been pretty nice. The HD had a completely different and much heavier duty frame, it had a completely different front axel. It had a solid I beam axel with leaf spring, it had a heavier duty rear axle with considerable more springs than the 3500 had and it had 10 lug 19.5 tires.

 

[Hay Dude]

I liked the 3500HD too, except they had a pathetic tow rating.

 

[joemd11]

I really like old dump trucks! This one has a flathead V8(100hp) and a crash box 4 speed. About the only thing it hauls these days is me with a big grin on my face.

 

[groundcover]

She is beautiful!!

 

[Wolfy]

The 3500HD is comparable to a Ford F450, about 14,000 GVW. Keep in mind this was 1990s high end, not comparable to nowadays. For the average person a 3500 is a better choice. The parts are much cheaper than a HD. The truck is also lighter which is very beneficial to a 350ci. I dont know anyone with a 454ci but they are probably good engines as well.