EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled?

   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #41  
LBrown59 said:
Probably no more or about the same as any other 400 pound or heavier object.

It depends on the mass and the cube density of the 400 pound object, and how it is fastened down in the truck. A 400 pound barrel that slides around in the bed can do a lot of damage.
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled?
  • Thread Starter
#42  
Also, that fuel barrel is NOT going to be full, by definition, on the trip IN to get the fuel. Fuel sloshes around as the vehicle is driven, because 55 gallon drums are NOT baffled, and many other fuel tanks also are not baffled. When that liquid sloshes, it pushes the container, and the forces and acceleration created are not controllable by the driver.

Be careful.

Jim G
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #44  
LBrown59 said:
Fuel oil and home heating oil are the same thing too.

Petrol is the same as gasoline. :rolleyes:
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #45  
A couple of issues to keep in mind. Not just the physical issues of transporting a 55 gallon drum of diesel, but the fire hazard created should that drum rupture in an accident and then - somehow - catch fire. Of course, it's not a combustion hazard like plain old gas, but the fire hazard is definitely something you should be prepared to deal with. The standard small extinguisher carried by some motorists won't do the trick with that much fuel. Then again, you probably can't carry enough fire retardant for 55 gallons of fuel. Any firemen among us to help us out here?

Also, should a spill occur with 50+ gallons of fuel, in Missouri you are required to notify the Department of Natural Resources ASAP upon discovery. There could be some costs for you associated with cleanup.

Fuel transport is a big responsibility and large quantities of fuel present a bigger opportunity for us to mess it up. The more volume of product, the easier it is to mess it up.

Now that I've thought about it, I'm probably not careful enough when carrying 10 gallons of diesel around in my truck. I might have to change my methods a bit.
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #46  
Jim,

A little pricy but you may wish to look at a Canadian manufacturer called Septre that makes plastic 5 & 2 1/2 gallon fuel cans for our military with a seperate large diameter flex spout. We use the easier to lift 2 1/2 gallon type.

They claim 5 gallons flow in 30 seconds with the large spout and with the supplied cap on is tough enough to survive dropping from a heleicopter.

Hope this helps.

Bill
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled?
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#47  
Bill: THAT sounds like an intriguing approach. I'll look up the company!

Jim G
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #49  
AndyM said:
Petrol is the same as gasoline. :rolleyes:

Oh yeah? :) Then why is it that gasoline costs about $2.15/gallon, and petrol costs nearly $4.50/gallon? :rolleyes:

Just a weak attempt at a joke, guys - don't get excited.
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #50  
A diesel engine uses #2 Diesel. I thought Home Heating Fuel was #1 Diesel...?
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #51  
LBrown59 said:
Not sure but me thinks a pound of red diesel weighs about the same as a pound of clear diesel.;)
But how much does a gallon of red diesel weigh compared to a gallon of clear diesel?:)
Anybody know how much the RED Dye weighs per pound?

According to the latest published figures a pound of RED Dye weighs exactly 453.59237 grams.
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #52  
I store my fuel outside in a 130 gal tank. It is really half a house 275 gal tank (yep, they make'm way too). It has a crank installed and is filled once a year. Because I live in Vermont where it can get a little cold it is filled with 40% kerosene and 60% fuel oil. It is treated with fuel conditioner twice a year.
It has worked well for over 5 years. No fuel spills and very eay to use. It cost around $150 total for the setup.

Al
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #53  
Green is Keen said:
A diesel engine uses #2 Diesel. I thought Home Heating Fuel was #1 Diesel...?
HHO <> true diesel, anywhere. However, some distributors and retailers sell HHO as off-road fuel. HHO is not chemically equivalent to diesel. #1 diesel is usually, but not always, #2 diesel cut with kerosene.
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #54  
Diesel #2 is for normal all year use as a motor fuel. Diesel #1 is for Cold Winter use and keeps diesel from Gelling in the tanks, lines and filters in freezing weather. Over the counter additives can be bought and added to #2 to take it to a lower temp. and the use of heated filter mounts and insulation on fuel lines will help keep them from freezing. When the Temps go down in a given area the distributor will add Diesel #1 to number #2 in a Blend to keep it liquid and you just pull up to a pump and buy it. You can ask if you want and they will tell you if number 1 fuel has been added. It just cuts down the amount of Paraffin in the fuel.
Diesel is one color. Red Dye is added to Agricultural, Industrial, to show it is not taxed as a motor fuel
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #55  
Up our way the Shell dealer sells one type of heating oil for indoor furnace tanks, another for outdoor units. Both are dyed. The "outdoor" oil is used by all the off-road deisel users as well. I picked up a used 100gallon tank, put it on a stand with a hand pump and the fuel-oil man tops it up when he delivers furnace oil.
Every few years we have to have our heating appliances inspected, including the tank or they won't deliver oil.( tank must be fastened to wall, mounted on concrete, nylon covered copper feed line etc) None of this applies to tractor tanks.....
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #57  
ronjhall said:
I have a problem with my back not liking me lifting a 5 gallon fuel can 4' in the air. Purchased a battery powered kerosene pump from TSC to transfer fuel from can to tank. Takes longer than pouring. But no back pain.
I also have a 12" funnel that I use to fill the tank. I always make sure there is enough room in tank for the full 5 gallons. Then just pour the whole can into the funnel. I learned the making sure there is room in the tank the hard way. :eek: Fuel all over the place and funnel still has a gallon in it. :eek:

Ron, I too use a battery operated pump. I set the gas on the hood and use this gizmo. You are right, it is slow, but it is relatively clean and works good enough for me for 12.99 at a local hardware shop.
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #58  
HAS ANYONE LOOKED IN TO A FUEL CADDY THEY ARE A GAS CAN WITH WHEELS AND A HAND CRANK PUMP. THEY SELL THEM AT SOME AUTO PARTS STORES, THEY FIRST CAME OUT FOR THE BOAT OWNERS TO ROLL OUT ON THE DOCK TO FUEL THIER BOATS. IF YOU CHECK WITH A MARINIA IN YOUR AERA THEY MAY BE ABLE TO HELP FIND YOU ONE FOR DIESEL FUEL. OR GO ONLINE
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #59  
GATOR445 said:
HAS ANYONE LOOKED IN TO A FUEL CADDY THEY ARE A GAS CAN WITH WHEELS AND A HAND CRANK PUMP. THEY SELL THEM AT SOME AUTO PARTS STORES, THEY FIRST CAME OUT FOR THE BOAT OWNERS TO ROLL OUT ON THE DOCK TO FUEL THIER BOATS. IF YOU CHECK WITH A MARINIA IN YOUR AERA THEY MAY BE ABLE TO HELP FIND YOU ONE FOR DIESEL FUEL. OR GO ONLINE
Can you please turn off the Caps Lock key? Your posts in all caps are annoying and very hard to read.

Thank you.
 
   / EASY way to keep the tarctor fueled? #60  
Dusty said:
According to the latest published figures a pound of RED Dye weighs exactly 453.59237 grams.
Yes, but then how much does a pound of feathers weigh?:D :D :D :D
 

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