Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC

[tommu56]

for every one the best thing to do is use buried pipe tapes over what ever pipe you are using put them 6" below grade then when diging tape comes up and pipe stays intact.UNDERGROUND MARKERS


tommu56

 

[sparkkky]

sparkky you are missing my point entirely. If I do a voltage drop calculation and it calls for #12 wire. I might decide that is not heavy enough and decide that I want #10 that is not against code and It would be my opinion that I needed heavier wire. Since you are on such a rant about electrical safety why is it that all the licensed electricians that i know are alcoholics and regularly go to work still drunk or hungover. How safe a job do they do ?

No Sir, you are missing the point of the N.E.C. if you correctly do the calculation and you use bigger wire it overkill and you wasted money!

And your stereotyping of people (except handymen and general home inspectors) is uncalled for!

 

[tnau664]

Wow! I guess I'll have to dig up that 12/2 with ground I buried 15 years ago.

Merry Christmas, couldn't resist.

 

[Dusty]

......... Since you are on such a rant about electrical safety why is it that all the licensed electricians that i know are alcoholics and regularly go to work still drunk or hungover. How safe a job do they do ?

Obviously you hang out at the bars way too much......

 

[gemini5362]

No Sir, you are missing the point of the N.E.C. if you correctly do the calculation and you use bigger wire it overkill and you wasted money!

And your stereotyping of people (except handymen and general home inspectors) is uncalled for!

You are probably 100 per cent right it might be overkill and it might waste my money but it is not a violation of the code and it would be my opinion. As to stereotyping people I am not stereotyping anyone I am just saying that the people that I know that are in that field drink a lot as do a lot of other people in other fields. Are you saying that you do not know anyone that is an electrician that does not drink ?

 

[gemini5362]

Obviously you hang out at the bars way too much......

Nope i dont ever go to bars I am a teetotaller. Something to do with my being in the navy and having way too many bottles of $1.00 per litre wine in portugal.

 

[stumpfield]

No Sir, you are missing the point of the N.E.C. if you correctly do the calculation and you use bigger wire it overkill and you wasted money!

QUOTE]

I just want to point out that using a bigger wire size than NEC recommends is NOT neccessary wasted money. The voltage drop on a long run may be within the N.E.C. limit, but you are wasting electricity. NEC allows up to 5% drop. It's fine if electricity is cheap. If you are off-grid where every watt counts, that's a lot of money going into the wire. If you do the math in how much you save in electricity cost vs. the extra cost for larger wire size, in some cases, it's a pretty good investment to go with the larger wire size.

 

[turbo36]

No Sir, you are missing the point of the N.E.C. if you correctly do the calculation and you use bigger wire it overkill and you wasted money!

This is not entirely true, NEC code refers to the safety of the wire only and has nothing to do with how the voltage loss affects the attached device. When I do wire size calculations I start with the minimum code requirements and then do a voltage drop calculation to see what the actual voltage will be at the device I'm powering then I compare that to the manufacturers recommendations. There are many times I will use larger size wire then code minimum because the device requires a more narrow voltage operating range for longer life and more stable performance.

 

[turbo36]

No Sir, you are missing the point of the N.E.C. if you correctly do the calculation and you use bigger wire it overkill and you wasted money!

QUOTE]

I just want to point out that using a bigger wire size than NEC recommends is NOT neccessary wasted money. The voltage drop on a long run may be within the N.E.C. limit, but you are wasting electricity. NEC allows up to 5% drop. It's fine if electricity is cheap. If you are off-grid where every watt counts, that's a lot of money going into the wire. If you do the math in how much you save in electricity cost vs. the extra cost for larger wire size, in some cases, it's a pretty good investment to go with the larger wire size.

You beat me by 1 minute!

 

[stumpfield]

You beat me by 1 minute!

You got a better example!