Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC

   / Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC #71  
Well it looks like this one is winding down. Even though it was a whole lot about nothing,:rolleyes: it was pretty darn entertaining.:D :D :D
 
   / Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC
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#72  
When I graduated from college with my Electrical Engineering degree, I didn’t know jack squat about wiring a house. I had to learn the trade like anyone else. Knowing the theory behind it made it easier but also made me a bit cocky at times.

I’ve met electricians who knew code inside and out but their lack of electricity fundamentals was scary. But there are just as many electrical engineers who I wouldn’t trust to change a light bulb, much less wire my house.

Contributing to the hijacking of my own post…
 
   / Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC #73  
Hmm dont tell Eddie but it is advanced computer networking. :)
I know where yukon is my son used to live in watonga while he was working at the prison.
 
   / Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC #74  
One of the first things I learned from reading the TBN threads, it is seldom a good idea to bring up electrical questions or to offer an answer because almost without fail a war of words and opinions begin. I have asked questions in the past and my threads were deleted, I had to go else where to get information.
David B
 
   / Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC #75  
Farwell said:
it is seldom a good idea to bring up electrical questions or to offer an answer because almost without fail a war of words and opinions begin.
David B

There is no room for opinions with electrical code!
 
   / Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC #76  
sparkkky how does the code change if there is not room for opinions. If someone sees something that they think can be done safer that is an opinion and the code gets changed if the people that research it find that it is safer. I personally think that some of the wireing called for in the code is not heavy duty enough so I put in heavier wire. That is an opinion and it is not in violation of the code. Also in the buisness where I work we dont have to worry about the code because it is not applicable to us.
 
   / Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC #77  
sparkkky said:
There is no room for opinions with electrical code!

I've always wondered why code is different for residential homes, business's and hospitals? If it's safe for one place, why is it not ok for all?

Eddie
 
   / Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC #78  
I agree with Eddie, on his own property, not governed by code, it is his business how to does it, as long as it is safe. Cannot see anything he has done that is not safe. As far as heat build-up in the conduit, get real. If the wiring is sized correctly, there should be mininum heat build-up. I am not an electrician, I'm in the plumbers & pipefitters union, service end of HVAC, commercial & industrial. Been doing this for 33 years. I have seen some great electrical work by union & non-union electricians, in the commercial buildings, hospitals, plants. Understand the value of following code in places of this nature. As far as homes go, have seen plenty of romex rockets , wired by licensed electricians, that I consider a joke. I know I could do it better. If a person is so narrow-minded to think of code only, and not common sense, don't have a whole lot of time for them. Codes are created to protect people, usually people with no common sense or no experience with electricity, from themselves, thus the need for the codes. Have seen some work done by electricians, and have asked the question, is that safe? The answer is always, but is meets code. Dont consider these very few guys electricians, we have them in every trade, any form of job. Eddie seems to me to have a great amount of common sense. But Eddie probably could have stopped this ranting very easily if he just went out and bought a can of grey spray paint. I also have direct burial wiring from my meter loop to my house, did it myself, put it in grey conduit. Originally the wire ran to a mobile home, directly in the ground. When I transferred it to my new home, I ran it in conduit, to protect it from all the rock in the ground, think it makes sense, added protection. Hope I don't get arrested, I didn't follow code.
 
   / Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC #79  
gemini5362 said:
sparkkky how does the code change if there is not room for opinions. If someone sees something that they think can be done safer that is an opinion and the code gets changed if the people that research it find that it is safer. I personally think that some of the wireing called for in the code is not heavy duty enough so I put in heavier wire. That is an opinion and it is not in violation of the code. Also in the buisness where I work we dont have to worry about the code because it is not applicable to us.

You petition the N.E.C. if your qualified and they decide if your change is for the better.

Wiring size is covered by the code book you have to do a voltage drop calculation to find size required.
 
   / Electrical PVC verse Regular PVC #80  
sparkky you are missing my point entirely. If I do a voltage drop calculation and it calls for #12 wire. I might decide that is not heavy enough and decide that I want #10 that is not against code and It would be my opinion that I needed heavier wire. Since you are on such a rant about electrical safety why is it that all the licensed electricians that i know are alcoholics and regularly go to work still drunk or hungover. How safe a job do they do ?
 

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