Engine smokes when first cranked

[double hunter]

A buddy and I have been looking for a tractor from him, we have looked at several and noticed that some smoke (blue smoke)when you first crank them but quit after they run for a while, what causes this, I have a Ford 1910 that I bought new and it has never smiked when cranked.

 

[Jerry/MT]

A buddy and I have been looking for a tractor from him, we have looked at several and noticed that some smoke (blue smoke)when you first crank them but quit after they run for a while, what causes this, I have a Ford 1910 that I bought new and it has never smiked when cranked.

Blue smoke is from burned lube oil. Could be due to worn valve guides and seals (oil drains down into cylinder past valve stems when engine is shutdown and burns when the engine starts). I wouldn't consider that a major problem but it indicates a lot of operating hours. What hours show on the clock?

 

[whistlepig]

A buddy and I have been looking for a tractor from him, we have looked at several and noticed that some smoke (blue smoke)when you first crank them but quit after they run for a while, what causes this, I have a Ford 1910 that I bought new and it has never smiked when cranked.

If it's a diesel blue/black smoke on start up is just some rich fuel burning off. If it quits after running a bit that's normal for a diesel.

 

[USNative]

If it's a diesel blue/black smoke on start up is just some rich fuel burning off. If it quits after running a bit that's normal for a diesel.

Mine has 120+ hours on it and it smokes a bit more now on start up than it did new. It does it for just a few seconds and then everything's perfect. I think it's just a sign that my tractor is broken in good now and running normal. No worries here. When working it hard it runs better than it did new. I think I broke it in real well by taking the advise learned by TBN members and not babying it. Don't worry about a little smoke from a diesel on start up all of em' do it a little.

 

[deepNdirt]

Where there's smoke there's fire and means everything working when the cylinders heat up the fuel burns off and the smoke stops that pretty typical of a used diesel engine, its the ones that don't stop smoking and tend to send suety oil out the stack you should be leery of,

 

[Soundguy]

i'd also go with oil/valve stem seals if blue. unburnt fuel tends to be black, black.. etc.

in any case.. a lil at startup wouldn't phase me a bit.. at least you know the stems won't seize up from lack of lube..

soundguy

 

[Wayne_H]

Not too many diesel engines don't smoke when they are cold and they first start! Unless it is a new low emission engine, it is very likely normal. Have you ever seen a large truck or tractor start up? All the fuel does not burn when it is cold, so you see them smoking until they warm up.

Wayne

 

[USNative]

i'd also go with oil/valve stem seals if blue. unburnt fuel tends to be black, black.. etc.

in any case.. a lil at startup wouldn't phase me a bit.. at least you know the stems won't seize up from lack of lube..

soundguy

Mine smokes Black but not very long , that's the normal smoke. I would be a little concerned if it were blowing Blue smoke.

 

[double hunter]

Thanks for all the info, we have looked at several, this Ford is not real pretty, but its runs ok, was concerned about the smoke but looks like this is common, we looked at one Ford 1700 and the man said it smoked a little, if that was a little I'd hate to see a lot, we found a Ford 1710 with a loader on one of the major internet sites at what we thought was a fair price, the salesman said it was ready to go, we made the 6 hour drive and it was a fairly large dealership, you talk about a dog, it sounded like it was running on 2 cylinders and absolutely would not turn left, straight or right were the only 2 options, the salesman said it had been thru the shop and was good to go, kind of had to restrain my bud, we're still looking.

 

[deepNdirt]

Double Hunter .... what area/State are you in? are you dead set on a ford?
if local to Ga, and interested in Yanmar .. they're was a YM-2200 come up on the Atlanta Craigslist last evening, Look to be a good buy, for 2-k

 

[double hunter]

Miss.

 

[deepNdirt]

Miss.

only a 6 or 7 hour drive

 

[double hunter]

it looks good, I have never owned a Yanmar, you see alot for sale, are they good tractors, a bought a Ford 1910 new and still have it.

 

[deepNdirt]

it looks good, I have never owned a Yanmar, you see alot for sale, are they good tractors, a bought a Ford 1910 new and still have it.

I might be a bit Bias but I like my yanmar, I have worked the heck out of It over the 2 years I've owned it and has never fail me, although I was fortunate to have gotten a good one,.... and for the most part all original Yanmars are known to be good quality built tractors, however they're have been some poorly refurbish ones that has given yanmar a bad name,
it is a matter of knowing how to determine one from the other
Yanmar engines have been manufactured for many years, were used in large boats, has even produce engines for some JD tractors, I suppose buying a GOOD! used tractor of any sort "GOOD" defines how well the tractor has been taken care of,.... as I stated I've only had my Yanmar for a littler over 2 years, There are many other TBN members who has had them for 20+ years,
I'm sure they can better inform you about Yanmar tractors, If you are at all interested in this 2200 go over to the Yanmar forum and ask about this particular tractor, chances are someone over there has one and can tell you all about it:thumbsup: Good/or/bad

 

[Mark Page]

My Massey has always burned black smoke for 2 or 3 seconds then grey til it wams up. It has 700 hours on it and has always done this, more noticible in the winter. I've never seen a diesel engine, marine, agricutural or on road that didn't do this.

 

[knightrider955]

My Long 560 Smokes when I first start it and smokes all the time unless its really getting worked. My tractor is a diesel. And Long tractors are the most durable tractors ever built so it must be normal.

 

[Soundguy]

Mine smokes Black but not very long , that's the normal smoke. I would be a little concerned if it were blowing Blue smoke.

again, a lil blue puff at startup or if you gun it, but then clearing.. wouldn't bother me... would make me think stem seals though.

thing on a diesel as it may be hard to tell smoke color as at startup there will be unburnt fuel smoke, and on a throttle up there will be as well.

soundguy

 

[double hunter]

I think he going to get he Ford 1710, smokes 5-10 minutes after start up (blue) then clears,hour meter is broke, it has a Bushhog brand loader, 2wd dr, not real pretty but not beat up, would look good with paint and decals, $3300.00, is this price about right or high,

 

[deepNdirt]

I think he going to get he Ford 1710, smokes 5-10 minutes after start up (blue) then clears,hour meter is broke, it has a Bushhog brand loader, 2wd dr, not real pretty but not beat up, would look good with paint and decals, $3300.00, is this price about right or high,

In evaluating a tractor and it's implements and if has a good FEL it's value alone would be worth 2,000-2,500 + option........
so when doing the math on the total cost of 3,300.00 only paying 800.00 -1300 for the tractor, kinda a no brainier

the most expensive feature of my tractor is it having a FEL, if I were to ever sell my tractor I would for certain keep the loader, example: my tractor along is probably worth 2,750 adding a loader would put it's worth around 5,000 . I'd probably not get 5-k for it with the loader, but might get 2,700 without the FEL, The person selling the ford could do the same, and actually get more by splitting them up, any good running CUT tractor of these HP should be worth 2,500-3,500 by itself,

BTW I wouldn't think it take 10 minutes for the smoke to clear, if so there might be an issue with the stem seals just as SoundGuy has stated, or worn rings... when we say normal to smoke when first started when mean briefly for only like 2 minutes or less,

 

[Ken Pike]

I have a 1980 Kubota B7100 that I bought a year ago from a buddy when he upgraded to a newer, bigger tractor. It is a 3cyl., 16hp diesel. I remember a few years ago when he had the cracked head repaired/replaced & the injectors serviced. Mine likes her glow plugs, Winter or Summer - just have to keep them on longer in colder weather. It always starts easily (I use the decompressor as well when temps. are around -20C or lower here in Atlantic Canada), blowing a bit of white smoke when first starting, then a few puffs of black smoke (a very few), then it smooths out & picks up the revs, purring like a kitten. It has lots of power & I have worked the snot out of it in the last year. Uses absolutely no oil & is showing just under 2,900 hrs.