Enjoying the new grapple

check · Nov 30, 2016

FRONT backhoe? Holy smoke, JOHNTHOMAS, gotta see a picture of that! Got one you can post?

Also, do keep us posted when and if you get the grapple, because the B2650 FEL capacity is not that high, and I would be a little concerned about the weight of the grapple and how much it limits the performance of the FEL.

JOHNTHOMAS · Nov 30, 2016

check said:
FRONT backhoe? Holy smoke, JOHNTHOMAS, gotta see a picture of that! Got one you can post?

Also, do keep us posted when and if you get the grapple, because the B2650 FEL capacity is not that high, and I would be a little concerned about the weight of the grapple and how much it limits the performance of the FEL.

Here you go. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...-about-skidsteer-backhoe-tractor-dscf3300-jpg

desh · Nov 30, 2016

I didn't think the price was terrible based on comparisons to prices elsewhere for the same model. I look at the cost based on the amount of work I can do with it over many years of use, i.e., it's an investment. If Barlow's can get you the same model for $1500, then jump on it.

JOHNTHOMAS · Dec 1, 2016

desh said:
I didn't think the price was terrible based on comparisons to prices elsewhere for the same model. I look at the cost based on the amount of work I can do with it over many years of use, i.e., it's an investment. If Barlow's can get you the same model for $1500, then jump on it.

You have a 1072 which I guess is a 72" wide model. I'm sure I was discussing the 1060 model which would be 60" and sure less expensive than the 72" model. Since I already have hydraulics the prices seem comparable.
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Red Horse · Dec 1, 2016

an opinion guys. Now that Landpride has ben purchased by Kubota, any price advantage they may have had is gone. I have had a Wildkat 48" Mini E series for about 4 years and I have to say to me it is the best value out there. check it out at MSattachments.com. One of its advantages IMO is you are not using a lot of loader capacity in excess steel in the grapple.

I have a Deere 4720 cab, loaded R-4s and about a 550 lb weight block. This "mini handles that power with no difficulty. Its a single center mount cylinder (less weight, fewer hoses to snag/break) but plenty of clamping force. The tines are very rugged and trust me-the width is not an issue-unless you are using it to pick up leaves! I paid under 800 bucks when I bought mine and I was jusdt on their site-now 999 plus freight.

Avoid the dealer mark up and save your self a few bucks.

noose · Dec 1, 2016

I just bought an L4701 and have a LOT of cleanup work to do on 60 acres. Besides the sheer fun a grapple looks to be, I know I'll use it. The biggest concern for me was weight as some of the grapples eat up a LOT of your total lift. The landpride is great but to me is a little spendy. I got an Armstrong AG BGR Mini which is a 60" 11-tine grapple. The grapple, diverter, joystick modifications, and install came to about $2200 which I felt was quite fair. I've not found a lot of feedback on the Armstrong Ag unit, but the little I found seemed positive. It's 440 pounds which is a little heavier than I wanted but it looks to be solid. I'll post up some feedback and/or pictures on this forum once I've given it a go. I have a bunch of construction debris and brush to clean up over the Christmas break.

JOHNTHOMAS · Dec 3, 2016

desh said:
I didn't think the price was terrible based on comparisons to prices elsewhere for the same model. I look at the cost based on the amount of work I can do with it over many years of use, i.e., it's an investment. If Barlow's can get you the same model for $1500, then jump on it.

Not the same model as yours. Talked with Steve yesterday and it's a SGC06 claw grapple for $1600. I'm now looking at the root grapple on everything attachments for $1492 and it's also under 300lbs. Lighter weight usually turns me away due to past experience with a rear finish mower but the recommendations seem to be to go lighter for grapple for my tractor B2650 due to size/weight/FEL lift capacity. The root grapple seems to be drawing me more than the claw grapple since I will be doing as much rock moving as scrub brush moving or maybe even more.
Anyone have any strong feelings of one vs the other and why?
Sold my front backhoe yesterday so got $1500 in my pocket to not feel guilty spending on something I won't use much.:laughing::cool2:

noose · Dec 3, 2016

JOHNTHOMAS said:
Not the same model as yours. Talked with Steve yesterday and it's a SGC06 claw grapple for $1600. I'm now looking at the root grapple on everything attachments for $1492 and it's also under 300lbs. Lighter weight usually turns me away due to past experience with a rear finish mower but the recommendations seem to be to go lighter for grapple for my tractor B2650 due to size/weight/FEL lift capacity. The root grapple seems to be drawing me more than the claw grapple since I will be doing as much rock moving as scrub brush moving or maybe even more.
Anyone have any strong feelings of one vs the other and why?
Sold my front backhoe yesterday so got $1500 in my pocket to not feel guilty spending on something I won't use much.:laughing::cool2:

I believe Armstrong Ag also has a new one that is lighter weight in the 300s. It's a BGR mini by name but smaller. Mine is the BGR Mini 60" and is 11 tines/440 pounds. It's pretty robust... The make the same model in, I believe, 42" wide but I'm assuming it will have fewer down tines but there's not a picture other than it says, rated for 25-30HP. The 60" is about $1200 so I'm assuming the slightly smaller would be a decent bit less. I can't wait to try mine out but with all the rain, I've not been able to take possession of my brand new 4701

JOHNTHOMAS · Dec 4, 2016

Red Horse said:
an opinion guys. Now that Landpride has ben purchased by Kubota, any price advantage they may have had is gone. I have had a Wildkat 48" Mini E series for about 4 years and I have to say to me it is the best value out there. check it out at MSattachments.com. One of its advantages IMO is you are not using a lot of loader capacity in excess steel in the grapple.

I have a Deere 4720 cab, loaded R-4s and about a 550 lb weight block. This "mini handles that power with no difficulty. Its a single center mount cylinder (less weight, fewer hoses to snag/break) but plenty of clamping force. The tines are very rugged and trust me-the width is not an issue-unless you are using it to pick up leaves! I paid under 800 bucks when I bought mine and I was jusdt on their site-now 999 plus freight.

Avoid the dealer mark up and save your self a few bucks.View attachment 490045 View attachment 490046

It looks like you have a closer to root grapple instead of the claw grapple the others have. Do you have any issues, difficulty picking up rocks with yours or do you do that? Did you make the specific decision to get your "root" vs "claw" grapple and if so why? I'm torn between the two and can buy either one from different place for about the same price with both of them being about the same weight and appear close in quality for price.
SGC6 Series Claw Grapples | Land Pride ..............Subcompact Compact Tractor Wicked Root Grapple 50" Single lid

Xfaxman · Dec 4, 2016

JOHNTHOMAS said:
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The root grapple seems to be drawing me more than the claw grapple since I will be doing as much rock moving as scrub brush moving or maybe even more.
Anyone have any strong feelings of one vs the other and why?
Sold my front backhoe yesterday so got $1500 in my pocket to not feel guilty spending on something I won't use much.:laughing::cool2:

You will be surprised by how much you use it.

I have used both styles, and like the L bottom root grapple style best for brush and rocks.

Either one is better than none.

My first grapple: