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[WinterDeere]

About time the freeloaders start paying their fair share !

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I thought most states already started doing this years ago? If not, shame on them for being too slow to adapt.

In PA, it's $45 to register an ICE and $200 to register an EV, with that price going up to $250 next year. I'm finding various figures on average per-capita gasoline usage, but they all center around roughly 550 gal/year, with PA gas tax being 57.6 cents per gallon. Meanwhile, the EV drivers are paying 6.27% gross-receipts tax on their charging, on a supposed 3000 - 4000 kWh per year.

So, average ICE drivers are paying roughly $317 in fuel tax on average, whereas the BEV drivers are paying $43 in GRT at PA's low (~$.20/kWh) electric rates. So a PA driver is paying $362 in reg+tax, for an ICE, versus $243 in reg+tax for a BEV, which is probably why they're raising it another $50 next year.

 

[NoTrespassing]

As someone who's been selling product into Europe for decades, interest in European sales has always sort of baffled me, as the numbers never seem to support the interest.

Case in point, Germany sales tanked by 76%, so the media idiots create all sorts of headlines about it, and everyone takes notice. But what tiny fraction of Tesla sales ever went to Germany?

Tesla sold 1.8 MILLION cars in each of the last two years (2023, 2024). And Germany bought 0.01 Million Tesla cars this year. Why does anyone really even care about European sales, when their numbers are always so pathetically low?

I have friends in Germany, who constantly send me crap like this. I always have to remind them that, while Europe makes a lot of noise and gets a lot of attention, their entire National economies are smaller than any one of our top ten cities.

Put more bluntly, Californians buy almost as many Tesla cars per week, as all of Germany combined does in a year!

The numbers are still interesting to me, nonetheless. Did Germany cancel incentives starting in 2024? That's quite a drop in EV sales.

New Electric Car Sales in Germany in 2024 (Full Year)​

–	2024	2023	2022	2021	2020	2019	2018
Total German Car Market	2,817,331	2,844,609	2,651,357	2,622,132	2,917,678	3,607,258	3,435,778
All Electric Cars Sold	380,609	524,219	470,559	355,961	194,163	63,281	36,062
% Share Electric Cars	13.5%	18.4%	17.7%	13.6%	6.65%	1.75%	1.05%

–	2023	2022	2021	2020	2019	2018
Total German Car Market	2,844,609	2,651,357	2,622,132	2,917,678	3,607,258	3,435,778
All Electric Cars Sold	524,219	470,559	355,961	194,163	63,281	36,062
% Share Electric Cars	18.4%	17.7%	13.6%	6.65%	1.75%	1.05%

The 20 best-selling electric car brands in Germany in the full-year 2024 according to the KBA were:

	BRAND	BEV SALES 2024	% MS	ALL SALES 2024
	TOTAL MARKET	380,609	100.0	2,817,331
1	VOLKSWAGEN	62,108	16.3	536,888
2	BMW	42,066	11.1	232,886
3	TESLA	37,574	9.9	37,574
4	MERCEDES-BENZ	33,991	8.9	257,888
5	SKODA	25,308	6.6	205,593
6	AUDI	21,831	5.7	202,317
7	SEAT	18,248	4.8	152,334
8	HYUNDAI	16,952	4.5	96,365
9	MG	14,370	3.8	20,977
10	VOLVO	13,535	3.6	62,326
11	SMART	12,463	3.3	12,463
12	KIA	11,837	3.1	68,656
13	MINI	9,225	2.4	32,571
14	FIAT	8,474	2.2	57,561
15	OPEL	7,633	2.0	147,833
16	PORSCHE	7,254	1.9	36,097
17	RENAULT	5,797	1.5	54,349
18	FORD	5,538	1.5	99,554
19	DACIA	3,655	1.0	71,424
20	PEUGEOT	3,349	0.9	67,454

The 20 best-selling electric car brands in Germany in the full-year 2023 according to the KBA were:

–	Brand	2023	2022	2021	2020
1	Volkswagen	70,628	63,206	72,110	46,193
2	Tesla	63,685	69,963	39,714	16,694
3	BMW	40,420	23,470	16,535	8,700
4	Mercedes	36,703	25,182	12,278	4,494
5	Audi	30,596	28,322	14,937	8,356
6	Hyundai	28,845	32,877	26,667	15,941
7	Opel	27,765	29,297	18,010	6,963
8	Skoda	23,499	12,194	16,127	4,751
9	Fiat	23,180	29,911	12,516	–
10	MG Roewe	18,526	8,774	–	–
11	Seat	17,504	12,595	4,603	2,149
12	Smart	17,416	12,190	24,019	16,035
13	Renault	15,505	27,858	32,709	31,477
14	Kia	15,099	11,456	9,568	5,909
15	Mini	13,953	11,744	10,140	4,365
16	Dacia	12,406	14,369	4,045	–
17	Peugeot	10,081	15,371	12,887	4,008
18	Volvo	8,502	5,212	–	–
19	Polestar	6,288	6,984	2,615	1,015
20	Porsche	5,706	4,789	5,228	3,203

 

[WM75Guy]

The numbers are still interesting to me, nonetheless. Did Germany cancel incentives starting in 2024? That's quite a drop in EV sales.

New Electric Car Sales in Germany in 2024 (Full Year)​

–	2024	2023	2022	2021	2020	2019	2018
Total German Car Market	2,817,331	2,844,609	2,651,357	2,622,132	2,917,678	3,607,258	3,435,778
All Electric Cars Sold	380,609	524,219	470,559	355,961	194,163	63,281	36,062
% Share Electric Cars	13.5%	18.4%	17.7%	13.6%	6.65%	1.75%	1.05%

–	2023	2022	2021	2020	2019	2018
Total German Car Market	2,844,609	2,651,357	2,622,132	2,917,678	3,607,258	3,435,778
All Electric Cars Sold	524,219	470,559	355,961	194,163	63,281	36,062
% Share Electric Cars	18.4%	17.7%	13.6%	6.65%	1.75%	1.05%

The 20 best-selling electric car brands in Germany in the full-year 2024 according to the KBA were:

	BRAND	BEV SALES 2024	% MS	ALL SALES 2024
	TOTAL MARKET	380,609	100.0	2,817,331
1	VOLKSWAGEN	62,108	16.3	536,888
2	BMW	42,066	11.1	232,886
3	TESLA	37,574	9.9	37,574
4	MERCEDES-BENZ	33,991	8.9	257,888
5	SKODA	25,308	6.6	205,593
6	AUDI	21,831	5.7	202,317
7	SEAT	18,248	4.8	152,334
8	HYUNDAI	16,952	4.5	96,365
9	MG	14,370	3.8	20,977
10	VOLVO	13,535	3.6	62,326
11	SMART	12,463	3.3	12,463
12	KIA	11,837	3.1	68,656
13	MINI	9,225	2.4	32,571
14	FIAT	8,474	2.2	57,561
15	OPEL	7,633	2.0	147,833
16	PORSCHE	7,254	1.9	36,097
17	RENAULT	5,797	1.5	54,349
18	FORD	5,538	1.5	99,554
19	DACIA	3,655	1.0	71,424
20	PEUGEOT	3,349	0.9	67,454

The 20 best-selling electric car brands in Germany in the full-year 2023 according to the KBA were:

–	Brand	2023	2022	2021	2020
1	Volkswagen	70,628	63,206	72,110	46,193
2	Tesla	63,685	69,963	39,714	16,694
3	BMW	40,420	23,470	16,535	8,700
4	Mercedes	36,703	25,182	12,278	4,494
5	Audi	30,596	28,322	14,937	8,356
6	Hyundai	28,845	32,877	26,667	15,941
7	Opel	27,765	29,297	18,010	6,963
8	Skoda	23,499	12,194	16,127	4,751
9	Fiat	23,180	29,911	12,516	–
10	MG Roewe	18,526	8,774	–	–
11	Seat	17,504	12,595	4,603	2,149
12	Smart	17,416	12,190	24,019	16,035
13	Renault	15,505	27,858	32,709	31,477
14	Kia	15,099	11,456	9,568	5,909
15	Mini	13,953	11,744	10,140	4,365
16	Dacia	12,406	14,369	4,045	–
17	Peugeot	10,081	15,371	12,887	4,008
18	Volvo	8,502	5,212	–	–
19	Polestar	6,288	6,984	2,615	1,015
20	Porsche	5,706	4,789	5,228	3,203

Yes.

https://www.reuters.com/business/au...y-end-e-vehicle-subsidy-programme-2023-12-16/

 

[NoTrespassing]

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250 mile charge in 5 minutes

 

[Gale Hawkins]

About time the freeloaders start paying their fair share !

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Wonder why Oregon lags progressive states like Kentucky on collecting road taxes from Hybrid and and EV owners? In our case we pay less KY road taxes on our ICE vehicles than on our Hybrid and EV vehicles.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Ford CEO explains why they cannot stand against Chinese made EVS in the marketplace.

Ford flew one in 6 months ago from China and Jim has been driving it and he does not want to give it up.

GM just did a $5 billion write-off because of their failures to make a go in China in the EV space.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

https://www.producer.com/crops/john-deere-displays-its-electric-future/

 

[Gale Hawkins]

German car makers continue to struggle.

 

[NoTrespassing]

But battery swapping doesn't work according to some. The new 5 minute charge is about the same time as a swap.

Then there's these guys:

NIO and CATL form new partnership to build the world's largest battery swap network

This week, prominent Chinese EV automaker NIO and CATL, the world’s leading battery manufacturer, announced a new strategic partnership to...

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NIO and CATL form new partnership to build the world’s largest battery swap network​

 

[Grumpycat]

But battery swapping doesn't work according to some. The new 5 minute charge is about the same time as a swap.

EV battery swap has never worked.

Just consider the financial risk of renting an item worth $10,000. The damage which can be done when you are not watching. Renters are not willing to pay the price you have to receive to break even.