Ever thought of going over to the Dark Side?

   / Ever thought of going over to the Dark Side? #21  
Ok, after getting some pricing on bigger Kubotas (40-50 HP), and facing sticker shock, I have been taking a look at Kioti tractors. Being orange, I figure the wife won't notice and will think it is one of the Kubotas.

I would sure like the L45, but after some consideration it is really overkill in terms of performance and certainly price, for what I want to do. The Kubota dealer also said that fitting those L40 Grands (of equal power) with BH and FEL will also approach 38-39K not much less than an L45 TLB.

Just lurking in the Kioti section, it appears that a similarly equipped (FEL/BH) 45 HP with hydro will be around 28K. Unless the quality is really crap, they seem to have some interesting features.

Have any of you ventured to the Dark Side?


WOW! That is a Extreamly high price for a little tractor.
 
   / Ever thought of going over to the Dark Side? #23  
when i went looking for a new tractor i too was hit by sticker shock, then i seen the kioti line of tractors. never heard of them before 2007, liked the added standard features that are options on the blue, green, and red tractors, so i bought one, a DK55 and loader. i like it too. bought it to clean up a farm i bought, never gave me any problem, even ran it out of fuel twice, fired right up after adding fuel. so i'd say the kioti is not on the dark side, just people's attitudes toward a new brand. by the way kioti has been around for 50 years over seas, and there are'nt many if any tractors made in this country. go ahead by one.
 
   / Ever thought of going over to the Dark Side? #24  
The Kubota L4240 will lift more then your current model kioti. The DK40SE have a max lift cap with the FEL KL401 of 920lbs.

The Kubota L4240 with the standard FEL LA854 will lift 1878 Forward , Pivot Point 2489 , and Bucket Center 1874.

i'm afraid you've got your facts all mixed up, the KL 401 loader has a lift capacity of 2716 pounds and a breakout capacity of 3727 pounds and i'm looking at the kioti loader spec sheet is how i know.
 
   / Ever thought of going over to the Dark Side? #25  
i'm afraid you've got your facts all mixed up, the KL 401 loader has a lift capacity of 2716 pounds and a breakout capacity of 3727 pounds and i'm looking at the kioti loader spec sheet is how i know.

See my earlier post I was looking at wrong loader.

Originally Posted by coobie
Maybe I am missing something,I burn wood pellets and can lift 2,000 lbs (1 ton)of my trailer with ease.K401 loader specs-lift capacity to full height at pivot pins 2716 lbs-breakout force at pivot pins 3727 lbs.Maybe you know something I don,t know.Check the Kioti website.coobie

No, I am the one thats missing something, I was looking at the specs for the LK1231 ,I stand corrected. Coobie I will open mouth and insert foot now. Please forgive.
 
   / Ever thought of going over to the Dark Side? #26  
Not to highjack but there is a lot of talk about the difference between a CUT with a backhoe, the next step up like l45 etc, or this one.

JCB Americas: Backhoe Loaders - MIDI
This unit is a REAL TLB which is made to perform all day long doing things that the others would not like much after a year or so.

And the COOL thing is - It has a PTO and TPH!!!:cool:

You might not like the price tag though:eek:
But it does have a park break buzzer and light!
 
   / Ever thought of going over to the Dark Side? #27  
Not to highjack but there is a lot of talk about the difference between a CUT with a backhoe, the next step up like l45 etc, or this one.

JCB Americas: Backhoe Loaders - MIDI
This unit is a REAL TLB which is made to perform all day long doing things that the others would not like much after a year or so.

And the COOL thing is - It has a PTO and TPH!!!:cool:

You might not like the price tag though:eek:
But it does have a park break buzzer and light!

Slan

The Kubota L45 is a real TLB that will Run all day everyday just like The JCB the only differance is the model you showed us is more compared to a Kubota M59 TLB. And both Models of the Kubota's The back hoe comes off also to use the 3 point.
 
   / Ever thought of going over to the Dark Side? #28  
See my earlier post I was looking at wrong loader.

Originally Posted by coobie
Maybe I am missing something,I burn wood pellets and can lift 2,000 lbs (1 ton)of my trailer with ease.K401 loader specs-lift capacity to full height at pivot pins 2716 lbs-breakout force at pivot pins 3727 lbs.Maybe you know something I don,t know.Check the Kioti website.coobie

No, I am the one thats missing something, I was looking at the specs for the LK1231 ,I stand corrected. Coobie I will open mouth and insert foot now. Please forgive.

ok sorry about that.
 
   / Ever thought of going over to the Dark Side? #29  
I,ve been accused by family and friends of having more Kubota stuff around my property then my Kubota dealer. BUT... last fall I needed to add a tractor/loader large enough to lift large round hay bales to use at a 2nd property we have cattle at. Another new large Bota was out of the question. Most used large enough Bota's 15-20K. I found a used DK55 Kioti with a loader for $11,500. This is a 5 year old tractor with 500 hrs.Garage kept, very clean. My impressions: it's well built, a few better then Kubota features, a few rough edges, but all in all a good macine. Dealer support/ parts are spotty, I'm told if you find a dealer Kioti has'nt hacked off, they just hav'nt been gotten around too by Kioti yet.
The BIGGEST difference I see in the two orange brands is resale. My $11,500 machine was purchased by the original owner for $28,000!!! I bought a new Bota in 1995 for $17,400 used it 4 years and sold it for $14,000. Not trying to hurt the Great kioti dealer(s) on this site, but you might want to think about the fast fall in value if you go brand new.
Jack
 

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