Factory front tires on 1025R

[Jims1025R]

So a bit of a rant, my JD 1025R is not quite two years old from brand new, with a factory loader on it. 240 hours total time. Yes, I used the loader, that's what I bought it for! Both front tire sidewalls are trashed, one burst. The John Deere dealer wants CDN$340 per tire! Why would I spend $700 to replace two tires which lasted less than two years!?! When I speak to the local tire guy (who was recommended by the John Deere dealer), his first question: 'Got a loader on it?", Yes, that's what I bought it for! "You'll need better tires." Yes, I'm figuring that out now....

Any recommendations? I don't mind spending the money, as long as I get the value! My previous JD 650 (lost in a fire after 25 years of ownership) had the front tires last more than 15 years with no problem, using the same loader implements, so I know it can be done!

 

[ovrszd]

Sorry to hear about your failures. I don't have an answer. But I'm sure someone will chime in with some excellent advice. Update us with your end result.

 

[tradosaurus]

Only 2 years and 240 hrs and your two front tires are trashed?

Sounds like defective tires.

 

[beenthere]

I'd lay trust on the local tire guy who spoke up and said "You'll need better tires". Tires with better ply rating and will accept higher pressures for FEL use might be in order.

But, a 1025R is not the same as a JD 650. It's a more mechanized, glorified wheelbarrow, not much more.

 

[ovrszd]

I'd lay trust on the local tire guy who spoke up and said "You'll need better tires". Tires with better ply rating and will accept higher pressures for FEL use might be in order.

But, a 1025R is not the same as a JD 650. It's a more mechanized, glorified wheelbarrow, not much more.

Compares in size to my old JD2210. I wouldn't try to use an FEL on it. And if I did, would certainly need better front tires.

 

[zzvyb6]

The China made tires have a reputation of being disappointing. Read the new warning labels on the sidewalls about using chemical cleaners on them (don't do it). I picked up a thorn from a crab apple or honeysuckle on one of my fronts. I already had put a tube in it because the bead area leaked slightly. Used rubber cement with a traditional patch. After 5 minutes, I had a quarter sized hole in the tube because the cement dissolved the 'rubber?'. Read the Amazon ratings on these things. Bursts, leaks, bulges, blowouts. Good thing I saved my USA made Firestones from 30 years ago. I hope they use the same stuff in their aircraft carriers, jets, and submarines (that we paid for with our jobs), 'cause if not, we will be screwed royal within 2 years.

 

[Jims1025R]

"But, a 1025R is not the same as a JD 650. It's a more mechanized, glorified wheelbarrow, not much more."

Yeah, I know, but it was the easiest replacement I could find in a hurry. The only thing more sad than dropping my JD650 into the dumpster bin with the excavator after the fire, was dumping the remains of the Cessna I'd owned for 35 years, which was in the same hangar.

I'm researching tires this morning, it's just really disappointing that I buy a quality JD tractor, use it the way it was sold to me, and the tires are junk so early. I would have paid more for better tires when I bought it had the JD dealer told me that what JD was selling was not as good as I should expect!

 

[ovrszd]

The only thing more sad than dropping my JD650 into the dumpster bin with the excavator after the fire,

I still clearly remember the feeling of hauling my burned Kubota B2910 to the scrap yard after my fire. My most favorite Kubota of all.

 

[dodge man]

A 1025r with an end loader is fine. I‘d get a pair of industrial tires but you may have to match the backs with them. That’s assuming you had turfs to start with. I had a Kubota BX that had similar sized tires on the front and when I did end loader work I found it was very important to air them up.

 

[gstrom99]

6 or 8 ply, and aired up a bit beyond the factory specs, should do fine.

 

[KennyG]

Curious as to what the original tires were. My JD came with Carlisle R4s. I punctured a sidewall on one getting into something I shouldn't have. The other is still original after 13 years and 1200 hours. Just looking it appears Carlisle R4s for your tractor are a little over $100 US. By any chance to you have turf tires? They aren't meant for loader work.

 

[Spindifferent]

Curious as to what the original tires were. My JD came with Carlisle R4s. I punctured a sidewall on one getting into something I shouldn't have. The other is still original after 13 years and 1200 hours. Just looking it appears Carlisle R4s for your tractor are a little over $100 US. By any chance to you have turf tires? They aren't meant for loader work.

This is my question as well. What type of tires are they, exactly? Can you describe what "trashed" means for the tire that did not burst? I can understand a single tire failure, the one that "burst", but issues with BOTH front tires at the same time seems odd to me.

For perspective, I have a 2005 JD 3520 with 1100 hours that still has the original R4 tires on it. It has a loader and the front tires are cracked and ugly, but they still hold air just fine.

 

[tacticalturnip]

What tires do you have on it? That's crazy, and that price is even worse.

If you need new tires take the machine, or just the rims, to a tire shop.

 

[Jims1025R]

The tires are: Carlisle Versa Turf 18x8.50R10 4 ply, and are made in China. There are a whole bunch of other various numbers around the sidewall, but aside from what I take to be an equivalent metric size, nothing else I recognize. There is not speed nor capacity value.

The sidewalls are bulged in various places, and the fibers of the plies are nearly visible. There are cracks in the sidewall through which plies can be seen. One of those burst, hence the flat, which made this all apparent. The tires were always inflated to the specified 22PSI, and the loader has been on most of the 240 hours total time on the tractor since new.

By comparison, similar diameter 6 ply airplane tires have lasted me 15 years, as did the front tires on my previous JD650. These tires are pitiful compared to those! Thus, I won't be spending $340 each to replace them!!!

They are a less common size, as the 10' rims rims (which would more commonly be 8") are that size to fit over the front four wheel drive lower gearboxes.

I'm just disappointed in John Deere, why cheap out on tires!

 

[dodge man]

That’s a very common tire for these sized tractors. I don’t think JD went cheap. I think you got the wrong tire for your use, you need to switch to R4 tires. I replaced the front tire when I had a BX and didn’t pay anywhere that much for it.

 

[ovrszd]

Yeah, I agree with Dave. So these junk tires aren't R4?

 

[sea2summit]

The tires are: Carlisle Versa Turf 18x8.50R10 4 ply, and are made in China. There are a whole bunch of other various numbers around the sidewall, but aside from what I take to be an equivalent metric size, nothing else I recognize. There is not speed nor capacity value.

The sidewalls are bulged in various places, and the fibers of the plies are nearly visible. There are cracks in the sidewall through which plies can be seen. One of those burst, hence the flat, which made this all apparent. The tires were always inflated to the specified 22PSI, and the loader has been on most of the 240 hours total time on the tractor since new.

By comparison, similar diameter 6 ply airplane tires have lasted me 15 years, as did the front tires on my previous JD650. These tires are pitiful compared to those! Thus, I won't be spending $340 each to replace them!!!

They are a less common size, as the 10' rims rims (which would more commonly be 8") are that size to fit over the front four wheel drive lower gearboxes.

I'm just disappointed in John Deere, why cheap out on tires!

Turf tires wont do loader work for very long, not John Deere's fault. They are lawnmower tires not tractor tires. Get R4's or similar.

 

[ovrszd]

Turf tires wont do loader work for very long, not John Deere's fault. They are lawnmower tires not tractor tires. Get R4's or similar.

Awww jeeezzz, I missed the word "turf" in his description.

In defense of the OP's position, I'm disappointed in his dealer more than JD. The Dealer never should have let it leave the lot with those tires. The Dealer installed the FEL and didn't upgrade the tires.....

 

[sea2summit]

Awww jeeezzz, I missed the word "turf" in his description.

In defense of the OP's position, I'm disappointed in his dealer more than JD. The Dealer never should have let it leave the lot with those tires. The Dealer installed the FEL and didn't upgrade the tires.....

Happens all the time, some people strongly object to the R4's thinking they'll tear up the grass. I don't think the R4's on that size tractor do any damage the turfs don't do.

 

[KennyG]

Because I mow a lot, I considered turfs on my 2320 but when I looked at the load capacity, I realized that the loader would likely exceed the tire rating, so I went with R4s. You can blame the dealer, but if you don't ask the right questions, you don't get the answers. A lot of small tractors have turfs because the owner doesn't expect to do heavy loader work.