Failure, how did this happen?

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No draft control on this tractor
 
   / Failure, how did this happen? #12  
I did a lot of searching on that when I got the tractor several years ago, it seemed the upper hole was more common, and nothing in any of my manuals talks about it. What determines which hole to use...

My Kubota manual, IIRC, is also vague on those holes. Reminds me of textbooks that flog the intuitive points and just dutifully mention the less obvious stuff.
 
   / Failure, how did this happen? #13  
I'll concede that, mine only has upper and lower though, no middle option unfortunately.

What is the deciding factor on which is the best to use for a specific implement?
Here is what my manual says. It is three hole but you probable can get the idea.
Also, i vaguely remember there was an extended discussion on this forum abut this topic.

EDIT: I found some discussion. It is not what i remember reading but there is some helpful info as well



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here's mine, useless lol

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The image above does not use the numbers in the image below.

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   / Failure, how did this happen? #15  
Have you looked on youtube tractor mike has some good videos
on stuff like what you need

willy
 
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The Pat’s quick hitch is also a contributing factor. Lower link being longer made it possible for the top link to cam over when it is too short.
Yes. If you use Pat’s quick hitch you need to buy a longer top link.
 
   / Failure, how did this happen? #17  
Yes. If you use Pat’s quick hitch you need to buy a longer top link.
Ditto Pat's quick hitch adapters changes the geometry of the 3pt centerlink causes the problem in the photo when centerlink is too short. My guess is hyd center link rod needs depth stop segments added to the rod to help eliminate future problems.
 

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   / Failure, how did this happen?
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Yes. If you use Pat’s quick hitch you need to buy a longer top link.
You'd think so, but I did that when I originally put them on, went the next size up and it was too long, I could not use some of my implements, so I sold that one and went back to stock size. The longer one totally did not work in my situation.
 
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Have you looked on youtube tractor mike has some good videos
on stuff like what you need

willy
I sure have, and every video out there contradicts every other one. Some say use the upper, some say use the lower without draft, and the next set talks about draft control and one says use the upper the next says use the lower. It's all a crap shoot, specific to each tractor and implement I guess with no real official guidance.
 
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You'd think so, but I did that when I originally put them on, went the next size up and it was too long, I could not use come of my implements, so I sold that one and went back to stock size. The longer one totally did not work in my situation.
Easy solution without changing anything : I guess your wife, when she collected a big pile of straw infront of the rake, she wanted the rake go over this pile and shortened the top link too much.
Just explain to her what happen and ask her to pay attention on how much she can retract it to avoid similar situation. Or just lift the rake all together or go in reverse. Just experiment a little, When you now where the problem is, you can easily find a way to avoid it.

Also a little tip. If you attach the rake to the lower hole you would be able to lift the rake higher without using the hydraulic top link.
 
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