Ferguson Plow Question...(s)

WillieMcCoy · Apr 8, 2012

OK, I get it there isn't a good way to obtain new points for my two Ferguson plows with moldboard numbers of 12B AO 112, point numbers of 100248 FT Solid. My tag reads "Type" 12-AO-28.

But my buddy has a Ferguson with moldboard numbers of 660 010 MI. He can use NEW steal points from Tractor Supply. His tag reads "Type" AO 14.

Why can't I retro fit my plow with the same set up as his? Is it all about the cost of retro fitting mine in buying the new brackets, shins, moldboards and points?

It's hard to believe that somebody isn't making this easier for all these great little 3 pt plows. Whose got the answers? Thanks in advance for all your expert opinions and experienced advise.

Fossil Farm · Apr 9, 2012

Hope someone has a solution. Went to about 3 dealers a few years ago, and the best answer was "If you buy 100 pair, I can get them for you." So the 2 bottom Ferguson doesn't get much use anymore.

Botabill · Apr 9, 2012

Sounds like the small farmer isn't being supported anymore. That's a big red flag. Who's going to feed us when the megafarming agrubusness food factory, owned in one way or another by monsanto, collapses.

MHarryE · Apr 9, 2012

I bought 2 Ferguson plows at auction a few years back, a 1 x 16 and a 2 x 14. I thought I could buy plow shares but when I finally tracked down a person who could sell me one for my 16" bottom plow he wanted $175. The landslide was also worn out but I could make my own replacement for that. That plow s now a mailbox stand. When the shares are completely gone on the 2 bottom I will buy one of the new plows that are serviceable which I should have done in the first place instead of relying on auctions.

djradz · Apr 10, 2012

WillieMcCoy said:
OK, I get it there isn't a good way to obtain new points for my two Ferguson plows with moldboard numbers of 12B AO 112, point numbers of 100248 FT Solid. My tag reads "Type" 12-AO-28.

But my buddy has a Ferguson with moldboard numbers of 660 010 MI. He can use NEW steal points from Tractor Supply. His tag reads "Type" AO 14.

Why can't I retro fit my plow with the same set up as his? Is it all about the cost of retro fitting mine in buying the new brackets, shins, moldboards and points?

It's hard to believe that somebody isn't making this easier for all these great little 3 pt plows. Whose got the answers? Thanks in advance for all your expert opinions and experienced advise.

Not sure about what will fit in a similar fashion to your buds. I'm somewhat surprised he was successful at TSC as I've heard most have difficulties with these. Long ago, someone fitted mine with an Oliver frog, and the rest of the parts, so the availability is still pretty good. You may want to inquire over on "Yesterdays Tractors".

polo1665 · Apr 10, 2012

WillieMcCoy said:
OK, I get it there isn't a good way to obtain new points for my two Ferguson plows with moldboard numbers of 12B AO 112, point numbers of 100248 FT Solid. My tag reads "Type" 12-AO-28.

But my buddy has a Ferguson with moldboard numbers of 660 010 MI. He can use NEW steal points from Tractor Supply. His tag reads "Type" AO 14.

Why can't I retro fit my plow with the same set up as his? Is it all about the cost of retro fitting mine in buying the new brackets, shins, moldboards and points?

It's hard to believe that somebody isn't making this easier for all these great little 3 pt plows. Whose got the answers? Thanks in advance for all your expert opinions and experienced advise.

I was going to recommend Sweigard Brothers in Halifax Pa., but I can't seem to find info on them now.They used to carry parts for these plows. If I google their old address it comes up as Messick's.

You might also try Ken Sweet here on the board. He may be able to track down some parts for you.

WillieMcCoy · Apr 10, 2012

I called three places that I had found info on in forums here, at YT and anywhere else I could, from the web. Out of the three places two numbers are out of service and Scott, that I finally got a hold of, at Sweigard's stated that they did (can I say DID) have shares/points for the Fergusons but sold them out years ago and can't provide them any more. He continued that he wishes someone would again make them available cause he gets at least three calls a day for the Ferguson plow shares/points.
As for the frog from another company that would work....well there's the price of the frog, then the landslide, then the shin, and a new moldboard, that's just for each bottom. I think they call that a new plow, at least I'd have that much money into it by then.
Just a shame to throw out the little Fergusons. Thanks for all the input.

brcisna · Apr 10, 2012

WilleM,

Check this site out. I just bought me a 2x12 ferguson a couple months ago,and was lucky enought everything is in very good shape. I did however phone call these people before i dragged the plow home,and they gave me a lead to whoever their "wharehouser" is? Its a very old school (was) family run bizz in central Iowa. As I underrstand it at one time moonms ago,,these outfit,,did in fact make a lot of plow replacement pieces.They were very friendly and helpful over the phone. It seems after having mine there are a few variants beyond a 12,,or 14 " moldboard on these?

Wiese Industries Home Page

Take Care,
BC

WillieMcCoy · Apr 10, 2012

Thanks BC, I will definatelly check them out! Thanks again. Willie

WillieMcCoy · Apr 15, 2012

I called Wiese Ind. and got the same results...should a been here ten years ago..answer.

They don't have any points/shares to fit, they used to, but that was many years ago. They get numerous calls every month for these parts but can't justify the time and machines to make them, even though they get numerous calls a month.

I be here still searching/researching.

Anybody else with any good ideas?

crowbar032 · Apr 16, 2012

I found some old posts that referenced Cresent Forge and Shovel Co. I haven't contacted them but I need a couple of moldboards for an old set of dearborn plows. Please let me know if they are able to help you, I just haven't had a chance to get with them (and I'm afraid they will say no can do).

Crescent Forge & Shovel -Tillage Tools

A local New Holland/Kubota dealer said they had someone they could send the points to that would "build" them back up to specs.

WillieMcCoy · Apr 16, 2012

I contacted a guy in Kansas, who says he can rebuild my points. I gotta send them off to him and see whats what. Gonna check this Crescent Forge right now. Thanks, I'll post what I find. So far it hasn't been promising. Thanks again.

Briar Hill Brittanys · Apr 17, 2012

I'd be interested to hear about the guy in Kansas rebuilding them. Where's he located? Mark

WillieMcCoy · Apr 22, 2012

Was hard to hear him on my cell in a bad reception area but, I believe he said his name was, Jim White, PO Box 171 Richmond (?) Kansas, 66080. Got a phone number if you want to call him. Willie

nspec · Apr 22, 2012

Crescent Forge closed up years ago

WillieMcCoy · Apr 23, 2012

The web site I found for Crescent Forge looks alive to me.

Crescent Forge & Shovel
P.O. Box 356
Canton, Illinois 61520

(309) 224-8114 - Office
(541) 754-1126 - Fax
Email at: crescentforge@comcast.net
Website: http://www.crescentforge.com/

nspec · Apr 23, 2012

Do a search. This has been discussed since 2008 I believe. Yes, the website is there, no the business is not.

Trust me, if they were there, I'd have some spare parts for my Ferguson. Great plow - it's a shame you can't get parts.

WillieMcCoy · Apr 23, 2012

Thanks, I've been researching. New members have joined, like I did, and maybe someone has some shares that weren't privy to the conversation before, maybe some share were located after the last discussion. I just gotta keep trying. I believe I've contacted some of these people two and three times asking for new ideas or maybe some other contact. I've got a pile of pieces of paper with company names or people's phone numbers. I guess it's just hard to believe with the number of these plows out there that someone hasn't come up with a way to keep them in the ground. I got three of them and need points/shares for them. I guess once the previous owners took the points off they let them sit around hoping someone would find a use for them again.
I certainly don't mean to offend, I need as much help as I can get. I've been on this site and three others with the same problem. Like I said before, I can't bring myself to take a torch to plows. Thanks for all your help and new ideas. Willie

nspec · Apr 23, 2012

I hear you. If I ever hear of anything I'll be sure to pass it on.

GreenWannabe · Apr 23, 2012

I have a friend in KS who bought an old Ferguson AO plow a couple of years ago, with cast parts. I tried everywhere I could find on the net to find replacement parts, no luck at all. Talked to the MF dealer, he advised that a few years back that the last of the cast parts were sold, as these were and are popular plows. He said to take it to a welding shop and get the old parts fixed was about the only option left, as new parts were made from unobtainium.