sdkubota
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Dynamite like in "Caddy Shack" will work!:drink:
FILL IN GROUNDHOG TUNNEL
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Gary Fowler
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Kill all the suckers or trap them then kill them first then fill the hole with flowable fill. Even that is not going to fill in a dead end hole that well unless you can get a hose to the rear of the tunnel
bigdad
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Try CCI 22 CB Caps. They are a target round. Not much powder, not much range and not much noise. Great yard pest round. Not enough gas to kick an automatic bolt.
Jesse masterson
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A ground hog can be pretty tough, shooting cb caps is to light for a hog regular low velocity shorts aren't that much louder and have quite a bit more pop.personally I'd put a cup of antifreeze at the edge of there whole . Because it tastes sweet. Most animals will drink it and will cause kidney failure almost immediate. Probably won't suffer as long as a bad hit with a 22.
Mark Page
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Not to pescimistic, but your not going to get rid of them by messing with the hole. They have multiple escape holes or back doors. I've hunted them as a hobby for over 30 years and killed hundreds.
You've got to either killem' or move em'. Here in MD it's against the law to move a captured animal from one location to another. This leaves 1 solution, 22 shorts (CB caps are fine for squirrels but are rather impotent for hogs) out of a bolt action rifle.
Semi autos can be hard to feed by hand. Try for a head shot as that will keep them from running off wounded into your neighbors place. 22 shorts are not hypersonic and create no hypersonic crack and a bit less noise. Wait for a moment when no one is around, shoot the hog, put the rifle away, dump him in the trash and then fill in the hole with dirt. Chances are no one will notice the noise.
You can also dump them in a field for vulture chow.
If he gets the drop on you, wait about 20 minutes and he will likely show himself again.
I've always used a .22-250 Ruger and 50 grain bullets, A few years ago I had the ultimate ground hog rifle built to bench rest standards. It fires a 67 grain, 6mm frangible bullet at 3,500 fps, and under 250 yards it blows em' into hyperspace. My personal record is a lasered 432 yards. The rifle is capable of more that I am. It shoots tiny little 1 hole groups.
When I was in my teens my Grand Father had had it with them gettting them getting into his garden. We poured 4 milk jugs (the old fashioned metal kind with a lid) of water into the hole about 10 times with no affect.
If you really want them gone you gotta' kill em'.
Have you considered a second hand crossbow. Very effective at close ranges and no noise.
You've got to either killem' or move em'. Here in MD it's against the law to move a captured animal from one location to another. This leaves 1 solution, 22 shorts (CB caps are fine for squirrels but are rather impotent for hogs) out of a bolt action rifle.
Semi autos can be hard to feed by hand. Try for a head shot as that will keep them from running off wounded into your neighbors place. 22 shorts are not hypersonic and create no hypersonic crack and a bit less noise. Wait for a moment when no one is around, shoot the hog, put the rifle away, dump him in the trash and then fill in the hole with dirt. Chances are no one will notice the noise.
You can also dump them in a field for vulture chow.
If he gets the drop on you, wait about 20 minutes and he will likely show himself again.
I've always used a .22-250 Ruger and 50 grain bullets, A few years ago I had the ultimate ground hog rifle built to bench rest standards. It fires a 67 grain, 6mm frangible bullet at 3,500 fps, and under 250 yards it blows em' into hyperspace. My personal record is a lasered 432 yards. The rifle is capable of more that I am. It shoots tiny little 1 hole groups.
When I was in my teens my Grand Father had had it with them gettting them getting into his garden. We poured 4 milk jugs (the old fashioned metal kind with a lid) of water into the hole about 10 times with no affect.
If you really want them gone you gotta' kill em'.
Have you considered a second hand crossbow. Very effective at close ranges and no noise.
cartod
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There are pellet rifles that will easily handle a ground hog, as long as you do your part.
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And at the same time you can kill your dogs and cats!
Little_Grizzly
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Lots of suggestions on how to kill the animals. I think the OP was asking how to fix his driveway not how to control the animals. From the post by ericher69, it looks like a very runny mix of concrete would flow right down to the bottom. You might use a long piece of washing machine discharge hose or something like that to get it deep in there and then slowly withdraw the hose. Might work best if you can get at it from both sides of the driveway. Another idea might be to rent a trash pump and really pour the water down there. That might collapse the whole thing to the bottom. Then you can fill with concrete easier.
Jesse masterson
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It was more exciting on killing the ground hogs lol.
nwngunner
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I just let my dog kill them. I have had him kill about 25 of them.They got up under my shop floor and actually caused the cement floor to colapse over the years. I Pulled the broken slab out with the tractor and there was so many tunnel. The dog had a great time got about 5 of them that day.
Helps when you have a half german shepard half lab that weights in at 125 pound to take care of them for you.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/nwngunner/Animals/Picture040.jpg
Helps when you have a half german shepard half lab that weights in at 125 pound to take care of them for you.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/nwngunner/Animals/Picture040.jpg
sdkubota
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I have never heard of this...the videos were great! Now I need a Rodenator because they are cool!
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That just looks like a version of an oxy-acetylene torch. If you just want them dead in the hole and have acetylene, just run the hose inside the tunnel and fill it with acetylene. It is heavier than air and will stay in te hole. Now if you want to destroy your driveway add O2 to it and you have a bomb. As a kid, I made one from a gallon milk jug. Dad had some old dynamite fuse and we taped a long piece to the perforated cap for ignition. We got the cutting torch set to cut and then popped it out and filled the jug with the gas mixture. To ensure we had all O2/acetylene, we filled the jug with water and inverted it in a tub of water and screwed on the cap while underwater. We dug a hole deep enough to cover the jug and lite the fuse. Of course we had way too long of a fuse and it took about 3-4 minutes to go off. When it did, we had a 3 foot diameter hole in the ground. I sure wouldnt want to mix oxygen and acetylene and fill a hole under my driveway and set it of. Heck just go for dynamite and do it up right.I have never heard of this...the videos were great! Now I need a Rodenator because they are cool!
djw250
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You can pump a portland cement, bentonite and water slurry with a trash pump. It is pretty liquid for a while, and sets up pretty quickly. Same stuff well drillers use to plug abandoned wells. Only thing is you MUST clean the pump very thoroughly as soon as you finish pumping unless you want a one-piece pump. The mixture we used was 10 gallons of water per 94 lbs (sack) of cement with up to 8 percent bentonite powder which is about 8 lbs per sack of cement. The bentonite makes it gel quickly so if you use that you have to move fast. You can mix it in a barrel or tank using the trash pump. We used a pump that had a removable impeller plate so you could clean it better.
bigdad
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Are you talking about Groundhogs or VC?
"That just looks like a version of an oxy-acetylene torch. If you just want them dead in the hole and have acetylene, just run the hose inside the tunnel and fill it with acetylene. It is heavier than air and will stay in te hole. Now if you want to destroy your driveway add O2 to it and you have a bomb."
"That just looks like a version of an oxy-acetylene torch. If you just want them dead in the hole and have acetylene, just run the hose inside the tunnel and fill it with acetylene. It is heavier than air and will stay in te hole. Now if you want to destroy your driveway add O2 to it and you have a bomb."
Mark Page
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ave to wait til he harvest themYou've got to killem' first before you repair the damage. If you fix the damage they'll be likely to start excavation again. One property I hunt has a big maple on the edge of the field, I use it for ranging. I hunted the place one afternoon and nobody showed figured I must have cleaned them out (unlikely).
When I got to my hide I spotted a gh hole under my ranging tree that was not there the previous evening. It's amazing how fast they can tunnel.
There is another farm I've been trying to get permission on for 2 years without any luck. I've left my card and I stop by now and again to say high but no permission. The place is lousy with hog holes. I can park out on the County road and count 10 or twelve holes only 200 yards away.
End of last summer I got a call from the owner, he was spitting mad. He was picking corn with his vintage Farmall H when the right rear wheel fell into an extensive labyrinth of holes and snapped the right axle. He had seen my card and wanted to know how soon I could start hunting them. The gun and ammo were in the truck, I threw on some camo and headed right over there. Using some round bales for cover I popped 6 of them from one spot in the hour before dusk. I hunted the place hard last fall and this spring and have put a dent in them. His beans are up now so I'll have to wait a month or so before I head back.
When I got to my hide I spotted a gh hole under my ranging tree that was not there the previous evening. It's amazing how fast they can tunnel.
There is another farm I've been trying to get permission on for 2 years without any luck. I've left my card and I stop by now and again to say high but no permission. The place is lousy with hog holes. I can park out on the County road and count 10 or twelve holes only 200 yards away.
End of last summer I got a call from the owner, he was spitting mad. He was picking corn with his vintage Farmall H when the right rear wheel fell into an extensive labyrinth of holes and snapped the right axle. He had seen my card and wanted to know how soon I could start hunting them. The gun and ammo were in the truck, I threw on some camo and headed right over there. Using some round bales for cover I popped 6 of them from one spot in the hour before dusk. I hunted the place hard last fall and this spring and have put a dent in them. His beans are up now so I'll have to wait a month or so before I head back.
Mark Page
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You've got to killem' first before you repair the damage. If you fix the damage they'll be likely to start excavation again. One property I hunt has a big maple on the edge of the field, I use it for ranging. I hunted the place one afternoon and nobody showed figured I must have cleaned them out (unlikely).
When I got to my hide I spotted a gh hole under my ranging tree that was not there the previous evening. It's amazing how fast they can tunnel.
There is another farm I've been trying to get permission on for 2 years without any luck. I've left my card and I stop by now and again to say high but no permission. The place is lousy with hog holes. I can park out on the County road and count 10 or twelve holes only 200 yards away.
End of last summer I got a call from the owner, he was spitting mad. He was picking corn with his vintage Farmall H when the right rear wheel fell into an labyrinth of holes and snapped the right axle. He had seen my card and wanted to know how soon I could start hunting them. The rifle and ammo were in the truck, I threw on some camo and headed right over there. Using some round bales for cover I popped 6 of them from one spot in the hour before dusk. I hunted the place hard last fall and this spring and have put a dent in them. His beans are up now so I'll have to wait a month or so before I head back.
When I got to my hide I spotted a gh hole under my ranging tree that was not there the previous evening. It's amazing how fast they can tunnel.
There is another farm I've been trying to get permission on for 2 years without any luck. I've left my card and I stop by now and again to say high but no permission. The place is lousy with hog holes. I can park out on the County road and count 10 or twelve holes only 200 yards away.
End of last summer I got a call from the owner, he was spitting mad. He was picking corn with his vintage Farmall H when the right rear wheel fell into an labyrinth of holes and snapped the right axle. He had seen my card and wanted to know how soon I could start hunting them. The rifle and ammo were in the truck, I threw on some camo and headed right over there. Using some round bales for cover I popped 6 of them from one spot in the hour before dusk. I hunted the place hard last fall and this spring and have put a dent in them. His beans are up now so I'll have to wait a month or so before I head back.
muddstopper
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An easy way to kill them in their hole is to use a roadside flare. Strike the flare and throw it down their hole. the fumes of the flare will sufficate the ground hog. Once the hog is dead you can use a trash pump and a watering trough and hose to pump a slurry of sand into the hold. Just dump the sand in the water trough, fill with water, and drop the suction hose down into the sand, it will suck the sand and pump it thru the dischargehose. The water will drain off inside the hole and pull sand all the way to the bottom.
HankTheThird
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Rodenators SUCK
The Rodenator company is here in Midvale, Idaho. Big problems with the quality of the product and the company is going under because of quality control issues. Look at the post below and follow that guy's advice. You don't need an overpriced 02 device to do the trick.
I have never heard of this...the videos were great! Now I need a Rodenator because they are cool!
The Rodenator company is here in Midvale, Idaho. Big problems with the quality of the product and the company is going under because of quality control issues. Look at the post below and follow that guy's advice. You don't need an overpriced 02 device to do the trick.
HankTheThird
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That is good--just DON'T use the Rodenator
You guys all have the right idea. As someone who knows the Rodenator line pretty well, I strongly recommend AGAINST it. It looks great on the videos, but that's what PR and promotional videos are supposed to do--make you want to buy the product. the guy who owns the company is a real sheister and the product quality is total crap. No service behind the sale. Do it yourself, really.
You guys all have the right idea. As someone who knows the Rodenator line pretty well, I strongly recommend AGAINST it. It looks great on the videos, but that's what PR and promotional videos are supposed to do--make you want to buy the product. the guy who owns the company is a real sheister and the product quality is total crap. No service behind the sale. Do it yourself, really.
