Finally....an answer to the 2520 starting issue

   / Finally....an answer to the 2520 starting issue #21  
No....... I don't have a starting problem. The confusion is all about whether the 2520's have glow plugs or air pre-heaters, and what is the proper starting procedure. Some 2520 owners don't have the "Mystery" indicator light and my JD manual for the 2520 doesn't even mention anything about the light, its function or a starting procedure.

Your best bet would be to read all of this thread, and other threads which are referred to in this thread, and you will get a better idea of the confusion which surrounds the topic. It seems to me that JD has made a running change with the 2520, and basically we are trying to sort out what, if any, the changes were, and when they were introduced.

REV

Dear Rev You started all this when you said since it got colder it took more cranking to start tractor. Some of us have tried to help you by explaining the glow plug system and trying to help you find out if it was working. We know by looking at parts layout that early 2520 had a grid type intake heater and later models have glow plugs. I tried to use the comparision to my 3005 as I know for fact it has glow plugs.
 
   / Finally....an answer to the 2520 starting issue #22  
Shoot me your serial number and I'll check for serial number breaks on Monday.
 
   / Finally....an answer to the 2520 starting issue #23  
diesel466 said:
Dear Rev You started all this when you said since it got colder it took more cranking to start tractor. Some of us have tried to help you by explaining the glow plug system and trying to help you find out if it was working. We know by looking at parts layout that early 2520 had a grid type intake heater and later models have glow plugs. I tried to use the comparision to my 3005 as I know for fact it has glow plugs.

Sorry, I overlooked what looks like a darn good answer. I expect that there will be several different operators manuals or tech bulletins to cover the changes.
 
   / Finally....an answer to the 2520 starting issue #24  
Thanks rev for posting the details here. Its my pleasure to read it. :)
 
   / Finally....an answer to the 2520 starting issue
  • Thread Starter
#25  
Shoot me your serial number and I'll check for serial number breaks on Monday.

The serial number on my tractor is LV2620H607191.


When I started this thread, I said now that the colder weather is here, I noticed it took a bit more cranking to get it running. Here is the wording of my manual:

Set the engine speed hand throttle (C) to the 1/2-3/4 fast position.
Turn ignition key switch to the ON position.
Check indicator lamps:
Engine oil pressure light will glow.
Alternator/battery charging light will glow. Engine is now ready to start.

"Now ready to start" it says nothing about turning the key to the on position and waiting for any dash light to go out. To me it just says as long as the oil pressure and alternator lights are on, go ahead and start it.

That was what I was doing, and when it got colder, it was taking quite a few cranks longer to get it going. After finding out I did have the "Mystery" light on the upper right side of the dash, I now turn the key to the "on" position and wait for the "Mystery" light to go out and then crank it. It fires up pretty much immediately with this procedure.

This thread eventually evolved into whether the 2520 had glow plugs, or an air pre-heater system, which really, I don't care one way or the other what it has, but my main gripe was that the 2520 manual has left out, in my opinion, a critical section on the proper starting procedure, and any description or explanation of that "Mystery" light, which I definetely have on my tractor, but others don't. I would really like to compare an owners manual for a 07/08 2520 vs a 2010. I wonder if there is any difference? You can't go by the website, because it reads exactly as mine does, so it is just showing the latest version.

I think a lot of CUT buyers are like me, just regular guys that can finally afford to get that utility tractor they always wanted, and be able to play "Bob the Builder" around the homestead. You would think a company like John Deere, could at least supply us with a correct operators manual. For that matter, once a blatent error like this is known, they should send you a new one or simply an addendum, outlining the change, which you would keep with your original manual. The auto makers often send out a "revision" to something in the manual. I'd rather have an accurate manual than the "John Deere" hat they sent me.

From what I have read in all these postings, I think most dealers themselves aren't aware that the manuals are wrong. If they don't bother to take the time explaining the starting procedure, there are probably a number of guys (like I was) cranking the #$@$ out their starter motor in order to get the thing going, when just waiting a few seconds in the on position would make all the difference in the world. Probably extend the life of a few starter motors as well.

Thanks to all you patient posters out there that have had the stamina to stay with this thread. I've learned something, and maybe a few other 2520 owners as well.

Hopefully kjung17 can search out something for us as to whether running changes were made to the 2520's along the way.

REV
 
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   / Finally....an answer to the 2520 starting issue #26  
I'm more than a little disappointed in your dealer. This question should have been resolved with one phone call. I would be surprised to find an addendum to the manual. I expect to find a DTAC solution. I' ll let you know.
 
   / Finally....an answer to the 2520 starting issue
  • Thread Starter
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I'm more than a little disappointed in your dealer. This question should have been resolved with one phone call. I would be surprised to find an addendum to the manual. I expect to find a DTAC solution. I' ll let you know.

I'm not dissapointed with my dealer. I had previously bought an X495 from him, that definetly has a pre-heat light on the dash, and was told to turn the ignition on and wait for the light to go out, then start her up. Surprisingly, the manual says the same thing.

When I called him about the 2520, he said he was pretty sure the same procedure applied, and went out to check another 2520 he had. He came back to me and told me about the light and its position on the dash. So basically my question was solved with one phone call. Furthermore, I shouldn't have had to make the call......it should have been in the manual.

Since I had seen nothing about it in the manual, nor any starting procedure relating to the light, it was me that didn't realize it was there, because I wasn't looking for it. I didn't count the lights on the dash, the manual says when the oil pressure and alternator lights come on, you're good to go, so thats what I did. I never even noticed the glow plug/pre-heat or whatever you want to call it light.

I'm one of those guys that reads a manual pretty much cover to cover on anything I buy, to try and get a good basic idea of what everything does, but without having seen any description about this light, and being advised to wait till it goes out, I wasn't looking for it, and although it was coming on, I didn't realize what it meant, so I just cranked away until it started.

REV
 
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   / Finally....an answer to the 2520 starting issue #28  
I received my 2520 today and was told Glow plugs.
 
   / Finally....an answer to the 2520 starting issue #30  
Owners manual is horrible does not even recognize the indicator light. Recommends I purchase a block heater.
 

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