Finally Ditching the Oxy-Acetylene Tank Rental

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Got any photos? I am looking to make a tank cart for my 125cf O2 and grill propane tank, but it isn't working in my head very well what it would look like...

I sold that one. Just added a piece of plate to the bottom and added another chain. Depends on your cart and the cylinders you have what you do. Going vertical would be better if your cylinders are short ones. I now have the HF welding cabinet with two cylinder spaces. Haven't figured that out yet.

Ron
 
   / Finally Ditching the Oxy-Acetylene Tank Rental #32  
Steel can only be field/shop fusion welded with O/A and electric arc. Carbon arc and forge welding demised a long time ago. In the case of O/A it has to do with carbon provided by the acetelene. There are other process used in a production mode but they are not field feasible. A substitue for Acetelene as a fuel has never been found. The terms "weld" and "braze" are not interchangable. Weld is a fusion process, braze is a soldering process using high temp alloys, penetration is a capillary penetration process involving only the material surfaces.

I have had excellent results using propane or natural gas as a combustible fuel mixed with O2 for heating, brazing/soldering, and cutting of steel. Standard acetylene tips and rosebuds work with other fuels only steel cutting requires a special tip. I modified my tank cart to also hold a propane tank. The acet regulator works fine but requires an adaptor to the tank outlet of propane. Make sure your twin hose is propane certified, older hoses are not and will break down rapidly.

I predict the demise of acetylene due to production cost as demand declines and O/A tecniques become rare. O/A welding is not taught much anymore. What we used to O/A butt weld is now done with with arc using socket weld fittings (smaller pipe). I was always a better O/A welder than arc welder although certified on pressure vessels/power piping for both. Even know well and have used acetylene generators.

Now I have dated myself, Ron
O/A welding setups +-$800 vs. Welder/Generator +-$2100, or Arc Welder and 12,000 watt generator, makes the O/A welder much more economical, and actually much lighter, too!.. I actually DO like arc, but, it's VERY expensive for portable use. home use is expensive the first time. let's say running 200 feet of 4/4 cable underground in pipe gets up there in price..
 
   / Finally Ditching the Oxy-Acetylene Tank Rental #33  
Sil-Phos is a brand name for a copper-phosphorus alloywith 5% silver. Phos-copper is a brand name for the copper-phosphorus alloy. They are the only ones that do not require a flux copper to copper. Disimilar metals (copper alloys to iron/steel) all require one of the other alloys containing more silver and flux. Sil-Phos copper to steel is not a good joint even with flux. These are all in the Bcup series of alloys.

Ron

This is correct.
 
   / Finally Ditching the Oxy-Acetylene Tank Rental #34  
I keep Acetylene around for Fine brazing, Fine soldering ( 000-0 tips ) and Spray Powder for build up and repair. Other than that I vote inexpensive alternate fuels for heating and cutting. Soldering and brazing with Oxy-propane works but soldering with Air/Propane is more common. I Like My Victor Turbo Torches.
 

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