Buying Advice Finally giving up on the Massey. New or used John Deere?

   / Finally giving up on the Massey. New or used John Deere? #12  
JD, New Holland, Case IH, (CNH) Massey Ferguson, Kubota are pretty much your top tier makers here in US, right?...
What is interesting is I think LS has watched their fellow countrymen like Kioti falter at times, figured out how to improve on what they
had and have become highly competitive, backed up by a service network known to be good. If you have an LS dealer near you, likely you should go
give it a look unless you are brand loyal. And that's fine too, clearly something works for you. Whatever color it is. Could be a Mahindra. Some folks like basic tractors, others like every available feature and wouldn't think of buying a new tractor without a joystick control.

Having grown up on a JD B, there is something to be said for being able to see what is going on and having a fair chance of fixing it.
That's out the window with most of today's tractor electronics.
Until a few years ago Kubota didn't do heavy row crop, nothing to pick up a big planter or VT tool. Now they do. I'd love there to be a thread
here showing current sales for the majors, even if its only last year's published totals that someone deciphers. I personally follow car and truck sales every month
mostly out of curiosity to see what people are buying. Same curiosity with tractors but no where to go easily for that.

As long as you don't have to cross much of your lawn, yes to a heavier tractor with more hp,
100hp sounds good, as long as tractor is maneuverable around your terrain comfortably for you.
 
   / Finally giving up on the Massey. New or used John Deere? #13  
when comparing tractors, at least new, I compared first by tractor weight, HP, then FEL lift capacity, then 3 point capacity, all other cab features the same.
When comparing used, repair history sure is helpful, trust but verify...

I looked at 100hp LS in those links. Looks similar to my new Massey but more rounded sleek cab, LS is a little lighter weight, but has more FEL capacity, which
is always nice. I think the Quicke loader on mine that MF rebrands is not what I would consider heavy duty. It will get the job done, but even the bucket
steel seems thin.
 
   / Finally giving up on the Massey. New or used John Deere?
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While you're ticking away the moments that make up the dull day, you could fritter and waste some time to look at these:

Utility Tractor - XP884CPS-85HP | LS Tractor

And the bigger brother:

Utility Tractor - XP811CPS-11HP | LS Tractor

Well played on the use of that lyric!

The major draw to a John Deere at this point is that I have two dealers within 20 miles of me. One of the dealers is a couple of blocks from where I work, and I have several friends that work there. It's a small community as well, so those guys buy parts from me, and vehicles from our dealership too. I like/need to return that business. When I bought the 3635 that I have now, I told myself that I wasn't going to pay that premium just for the color of the paint. I immediately regretted it! Now I'm not saying if they were an LS dealer, and there were tons of LS running around the community that I wouldn't feel the exact same way, but the truth is that the MF has made me realize that there is something to be said about dealer support. I'll be totally honest, if I had my preference I would prefer a Kubota, and I actually have a dealer with 40 miles of home, but I don't know those guys as well, and I'm not for sure if I would get the same level of service that I could from the local JD dealer. I suppose thats why I'm not quite as concerned about all the issues that everyone says the 5E series have. While I hope that I don't have any issues, I just feel like they will be taken care of appropriately.
 
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I maintain that a good machine should never need to see the dealer after delivery.

But I can relate to the one hand washing the others bit too.
 
   / Finally giving up on the Massey. New or used John Deere? #16  
JHurt,

In your shoes, I would likely go with JD...even though I went with the LS on my new machine.

The LS is a lot of tractor for the money but what clinched it for me was the dealer. (My JD dealer is not very good) In your case, the JD dealer seems a better choice.

I disagree with Diggin It. Dealer support is an important factor unless someone is capable and willing to fix things. These are machines and they will break eventually.
 
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Too Bad Tractor manufacturers don't have a five year satisfaction guarantee. We have our Princess Auto (Like HF) here, and they have a moto, "No Sale Is Final". I have brought back a five year old Recon. elect. Chain Saw. Said it was a POS and I didn't like it. No problem, money refunded.

I would have returned our JD 6200 for the inoperative manual transmission.

I wish manufacturers would focus more on perfecting what they have, rather than new gimmicks, models and lines! People it seems would rather buy fancy new garbage than something mildly dated, that's proven itself. Kind of my feeling how Kubota used to be anyway.
 
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   / Finally giving up on the Massey. New or used John Deere?
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Well I went and sat on a 5075E last night for the first time. Seems small to me. Much smaller than the current MF3635. Weird thing is according to Tractor Data they are almost the same wheelbase, but the JD is 10" shorter overall. Surprisingly, it says the JD also outweighs the MF by a couple hundred pounds. The JD didn't have a loader on it, and the tires/wheels are set all the way in, so that might be messing with my perception a bit. I absolutely hate the size of tires on the JD though. 9.5-24 on the front and 16.9-28 on the rear. The front concerns me more than the rears. I can upgrade to an 11.2R24 and 16.9R30 for $2900, but then the tractor has to specially built and I will have to wait until mid September for delivery. So many decisions.
 
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my experience with relatively small front R4's on a Kubota 5740 was some serious imprinting on my lawn whenever I had any weight in the bucket,
unless we were really dry. So yes, if you can get bigger tires, do so and I wouldn't be in a rush. I should have waited for different tires on my new Massey and regret
that I didn't.
 

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