First oil change BEFORE recommended time interval

[oldyellr]

One reason to wait (I didn't see this in any of the previous posts, surprisingly, but I may have missed it) for the 50 hours is the engine break-in. Piston rings need to wear in to ensure a good seal and long life.
So, I'd go the 50 hours, even if you make time or tasks to use the tractor.

I don't know if the manufacturers do this anymore, but the original factory fill used to be a "break-in" oil which allowed a controlled amount of wear to bed in the moving parts and smooth out irregularities. Changing to a regular oil before the break-in process was complete could lead to seizure or abnormal oil consumption. Today engines are built with better materials and tighter clearances and break-in isn't necessary, other than not beating on it from the get go.

 

[RoyJackson]

Today engines are built with better materials and tighter clearances and break-in isn't necessary, other than not beating on it from the get go.

Like I wrote in my first post, I suggest you don't compare the automotive industry to the tractor industry. If the manual calls for a break in oil change, stick with the manual.

 

[sal64]

I recently purchased a new Massey Ferguson 1643. The owners manual recommends the first oil change at 50 hours. I don't put a lot of hours on my machine, so I probably won't hit 50 hours until a year from now. To me, that seems like a very long time to have the factory oil lubricating the engine. It has always been my understanding that the first oil change should be done sooner than usual to remove any metal debris from manunfactuing. My question is, is this still a valid thought with modern diesel engines and two, is there any harm in changing the oil out at say 15 or 25 hours? Thanks for the input.

in my oppinion i go by the hrs i purchased a 2320 about 2yrs ago and just changed the oil at 50hrs i only put about 25hrs a yr, hydro at 4 to 6 yrs about 200hrs.i have a 950 25yrs old 275hrs hydro never changed and it still runs strong.

 

[_RaT_]

Wow, I find it incredible that you can only put 25 hours on a year. Even when I was tractorless I put on more hours then that. I see it repeatedly here where folks put on so few hours a year. Perhaps its all relative. I figure I average about 300 - 350 hours a year, I suppose a farmer puts on that much in a day! :laughing:

in my oppinion i go by the hrs i purchased a 2320 about 2yrs ago and just changed the oil at 50hrs i only put about 25hrs a yr, hydro at 4 to 6 yrs about 200hrs.i have a 950 25yrs old 275hrs hydro never changed and it still runs strong.

 

[bp fick]

Such extremes. Geeeesh.

Some guys want to change the oil with less than 50 hours and someone else proudly points to hydro fluid not changed in 25 years.

There's just nothing to say. Speechless.:laughing:

 

[brucew44guns]

No flames from me. The single most important consideration of a lubricant is the viscosity. Engine builders give guidelines for which to use. They also tell us when to change to new oil, and change filters. As has been mentioned, it's usually good advise. Just a few years ago, the recommended oil drain interval on an over the road truck was 10K miles, now they routinely go 20, 25, 30 or more, depending on the haul, point being that oils are improved tremendousely. I worked for Flying J 12 years, we went 25 K on Cat motors, 30 on Cummins I believe, no troubles at all. If you run 20 minutes a week and shut it down, wait 2 weeks and run 15 minutes, some unusual short running spurts, you might feel better changing it a bit sooner. I have a new garden tiller, takes almost a quart to change it. I routinely change it at about 5 hours of use, thats just me, it probably is not needed. Use good judgement on your machine, it will balance out in the end.

 

[brucew44guns]

Forgot to mention, regarding "break-in-oil". Kenworth and Peterbilt assembly plants fill engines all day long with Chevron Delo 400 15W-40. New motors, and Delo 400 is not break-in-oil. Maybe tractor engines need more help adjusting to the real world, but a KW heads down the road day one with what Chevron hopes will always be used.

 

[Rob-D]

Forgot to mention, regarding "break-in-oil". Kenworth and Peterbilt assembly plants fill engines all day long with Chevron Delo 400 15W-40. New motors, and Delo 400 is not break-in-oil. Maybe tractor engines need more help adjusting to the real world, but a KW heads down the road day one with what Chevron hopes will always be used.

Bruce,
KW, probably like most manufacturers, uses oil that meets specific criteria, that doesn't mean it's the best oil. With that said, today's oils are so superior to previous oils that most are very, very good and will work in most applications.

I think tractor engines do see more dust and dirt so air and engine filters have to work harder than an on the road vehicle. It's apples and oranges, like Roy said.

If someone is only putting 200 hours or less a year on a tractor it's a moot point. With today's lubes and metallurgy you'll never wear the thing out!

Rob

 

[Danno1]

One of the funniest things I see people do is rev their engine just before they shut it off, mostly on gas cars. You can't do anything worse! It draws raw gas into the cylinders that gets to sit there all night.

One of the funniest things I see is those who mash the gas pedal to the floor in the winter as soon as the engine fires (cars I'm talking about).

Or jam it into drive almost before the starter's disengaged.


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[Rob-D]

One of the funniest things I see is those who mash the gas pedal to the floor in the winter as soon as the engine fires (cars I'm talking about).

Or jam it into drive almost before the starter's disengaged.


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Lets grind those rings up!