First Time Buyer Looking for Help

[61flattop]

The NH TZ's are great little tractors. If I remember right, you can get into the 25 for only a couple hundred more bucks. I would probably go that route especially if you are thinking about running a rear mounted tiller. That takes the PTO HP up a couple of notches. The other thing to consider is if you are going to be needing any rear hydraulics ( Power Beyond ). The TZ's out of the box are not equipped for it. Out of the box you will need to look at the NH TC series, the Massey GC, Bota BX, and the Deere's.

 

[sanzania]

Ok another set of questions. The NH TZ22DA I'm looking at has 6 hours on it. I'm reading threads where peoplle are saying they are buying "demo" units w/ 5 hours for less because the tractor isn't considered new. When testing the tractor out, there was a "bad switch" some where that prevented the tractor from staying on when the parking brake was engaged. Now that I look back at my emails he is giving me my "deal" on a tractor w/ a specific serial number even though there are 5 or 6 on the lot. Should I be wary or am I reading too much into this. Last one, does it matter that the hydrolic pump is only 3gpm when other tractors in its class are 6gpm?

Thanks again guys.

 

[beckmurph]

Northerntool has a 47 in NorTrac tiller for $850 that a friend of mine bought and is happy with it. Northern has 0 payment and 0 interest for 12 months right now. NH's 2.9 for 96 months beats Kubota's 6.49 for 72 months by about $40 a months, and the TZ22 is more costly than the Kubota. The Tz22's two peddle setup is not as comfortable as the Kubota's. I would prefer the 2350 for ease of use and comfort, but the 2.9% from NH would make it more affordable. I was interested in the MF2300, but the local dealer lost his MF dealership so I won't comment on Massey.

 

[richtidebruin]

Ok another set of questions. The NH TZ22DA I'm looking at has 6 hours on it. I'm reading threads where peoplle are saying they are buying "demo" units w/ 5 hours for less because the tractor isn't considered new. When testing the tractor out, there was a "bad switch" some where that prevented the tractor from staying on when the parking brake was engaged. Now that I look back at my emails he is giving me my "deal" on a tractor w/ a specific serial number even though there are 5 or 6 on the lot. Should I be wary or am I reading too much into this. Last one, does it matter that the hydrolic pump is only 3gpm when other tractors in its class are 6gpm?

Thanks again guys.

Think you are reading a little too much into the demo/bad switch issue. In fact there is a recall on the seat switch for a number of NH models, my TC 34 included. Usually when a dealer provides a written quote on a tractor, they will specify a serial #... for example some of the units may or may not have the sensitrac option.

I really like my blue tractor, but have to say that if I had gone with a smaller framed tractor ) sub comp or Class I, I would have probably purchased Orange. You may also want to look at the Kubota website, as they are now advertising 0% for 36 mos on BX and B models.

Also consider that if you ever wanted to add a backhoe, Kubota would be the way to go... You don't even have that option with the TZ...

Based on your "real tractor" comment, I would seriously relook at the TC26 and B series Kubotas and get some demo time on both in addition to the subcompacts you are looking at. Their capabilities and implement options are much greater for not a lot more money...

Rich

 

[jbrumberg]

Sanzania:

I agree with richtidebruin. I also had the seat switch problem on the dealer's lot. They replaced the switch. I have not had any problems since. Jay

 

[GreenWannabe]

I was just looking at the Woods Equipment site, and noticed that they do have a subframe kit for the BH6000 backhoe for the NH TZ18DA through the TZ25DA, so if you do need a backhoe the Woods could be a viable option for you.

 

[sanzania]

I was just looking at the Woods Equipment site, and noticed that they do have a subframe kit for the BH6000 backhoe for the NH TZ18DA through the TZ25DA, so if you do need a backhoe the Woods could be a viable option for you.

I looked into that. The problem is you can't have the mower deck on and the backhoe at the same time. The dealer basically said "it takes a day" to put the backhoe on because of all the things you have to take off to put the subframe on.

 

[61flattop]

I am a little weird in this sense... when it comes to a SCUT, if you are wanting a back hoe, I only recommend looking at the units that were intentionally engineered to have one. With a SCUT, engineeres are allready challenged with trying to cram 20lbs of $*#@ in a 5 lb bucket and if they did not engineere it for one, you dont need to have one on it. the only exception being that the hoe was specifically enginnered for the SCUT and reinforces the frame and drivetrain. I kind of look at it like if it were meant to have one feasibly... the manufacturer would have put it on. In the NH's to get the hoe, you do need to step up to the TC.

 

[richtidebruin]

Last one, does it matter that the hydrolic pump is only 3gpm when other tractors in its class are 6gpm?

sanzania,

Meant to address your question on the flow issue on my other post, but chased a different rabbit.

GPM flow comparables can be inconsistent when analyzing marketing-oriented specs on tractors... For example, Are there separate pumps for power steering? Is this total flow, or flow to the attachment? Is it peak flow or ....

IMO you're better off comparing loader capacities (at like points), 3pt hitch capacities (24" behind the balls), and PTO power. All of these run off the hydrolic flow, and --generally speaking the higher the capacity, the higher the flow required to support that capacity.

Truthfully, unless you were using a power beyond type setup (which I don't think is even available for subcomp) for an attachment like a power broom, backhoe, or other high flow attachment, it may difficult to determine much difference in hydrolic performance on a subcomp.

 

[richtidebruin]

I am a little weird in this sense... when it comes to a SCUT, if you are wanting a back hoe, I only recommend looking at the units that were intentionally engineered to have one. With a SCUT, engineeres are allready challenged with trying to cram 20lbs of $*#@ in a 5 lb bucket and if they did not engineere it for one, you dont need to have one on it. the only exception being that the hoe was specifically enginnered for the SCUT and reinforces the frame and drivetrain. I kind of look at it like if it were meant to have one feasibly... the manufacturer would have put it on. In the NH's to get the hoe, you do need to step up to the TC.

"I only recommend looking at the units that were intentionally engineered to have one."

Said it better than I could.... but what I meant by my Kubota BX/B, NH TC comments...

 

[61flattop]

Said it better than I could.... but what I meant by my Kubota BX/B, NH TC comments...

Actually there I think you even meant to say the Massey GC2310

 

[sanzania]

OK Guys, I pulled the trigger today. I bought the NH TZ22DA w/ sensitrack, grill guard, 60"mmm, 10la Loader, ballast box, 48" tiller, 48" box blade and fertilizer spreader.

I did not buy the one w/ the 6 hours and bad seat switch from my local dealer, here's why. He gave me his "rock bottom price", which seemed a little high, and was $1050 more than the BX2350 which was the other tractor in the running but lost because the NH had better financing. I bought the tractor from Corriher in North Carolina. Even after paying $800 shipping, the tractor was still $250 less than the local dealer. $250 definitely isn't a deal breaker, but when I added up how much implements from the local dealer were compared to Corriher, that is where the savings came in and it was only $100 extra to add them to the truck. From a total equipment standpoint, I saved $2435 less the $900 in shipping, I have $1535 left in my pocket,which is headed toward a trailer.

I appreciate all the advice. It'll be about a week and a half before I get the tractor, they had to order the loader and said it'll take a week.

 

[jbrumberg]

sanzania:

Good work and congratulations on your tractor ! Jay

 

[61flattop]

you did well..... the 22 is a nice little unit

 

[archerynut]

Congrats, I think you will really enjoy the 22.

 

[richtidebruin]

I bought the tractor from Corriher in North Carolina. Even after paying $800 shipping, the tractor was still $250 less than the local dealer. $250 definitely isn't a deal breaker, but when I added up how much implements from the local dealer were compared to Corriher, that is where the savings came in and it was only $100 extra to add them to the truck. From a total equipment standpoint, I saved $2435 less the $900 in shipping, I have $1535 left in my pocket,which is headed toward a trailer.

Congrats, I know you'll enjoy it.

I really looked hard at Corriher as well, but didn't purchase as many implements, so the savings was hard for me to justify, but I have only heard good things about them....

Rich

 

[sanzania]

It's here!!! Photos attached.

 

[archerynut]

Good looking ride. Have fun this weekend.

 

[BTDT]

I have $1535 left in my pocket,which is headed toward a trailer.

In your pics, it looks as though you already have a trailer?? Nice looking tractor.

 

[sanzania]

I have $1535 left in my pocket,which is headed toward a trailer.

In your pics, it looks as though you already have a trailer?? Nice looking tractor.

Bought the trailer last weekend for $900. It was used but in great shape so I saved some bucks from buying new.