Fluid in tires

[Toffy]

Sorry Sound Guy read it wrong.

 

[dex3361]

Make sure and leave an air cushion space in the tire. The accepted practice is to fill to just over the top of the rim. In my Kubota owners manual it says not to fill the front tires. I gather from reading itis because of the shock absorbing effect of the air only filled tire.

 

[foggy1111]

that response was not to you, and was not about the original post. it was directed to another individual, and their previous post / reply to my post. I specifically posted that users message so there would be no confusion as to who I was responding to...

I'm not uptight... I simply have some experience with ground and water contamination and mitigation....

soundguy

I'll take that as a shot at me. I started out trying to tactfully state that EG was not a good idea as ballast. You took an opposing position. Your degree and/or experience with ground and water contamination doesn't impress me. There's plenty of bad advice given by folks with degrees.

I could care less what you put in your tires, But when you dispense un-sound advice in epic proportions....you outta be smart enough to back away from a bad position. (puns intended)

To those that show more sense....here's a quick read with ONE reason to not use EG as ballast:

Every year more than ten thousand dogs and cats are accidentally poisoned with automotive antifreeze. Although dogs and cats account for most cases, ethylene glycol is toxic to all creatures - including people. This is the most common cause of poisoning of dogs and cats in the United States. The toxic ingredient in the antifreeze is its major component, ethylene glycol. It makes up 95% of the product. It only takes a small sip of antifreeze to poison your pet. Cats are approximately four times as sensitive to the poison as dogs. One to two teaspoons full will poison a cat and three tablespoons-full is enough to kill a medium size dog.

Antifreeze poisoning occurs even in warm climates because radiator coolant in all climates contains ethylene glycol. In the North, the incidence increases substantially in the fall when automotive cooling systems and radiators are being flushed and refilled. Ethylene glycol is sweet and quite tasty to pets. Some cases occur when discarded coolant is left where a pet can get to it. In others the pets lick the empty gallon containers or the puddle that forms below a leaky radiator system. Because it is tasty - dogs and cats will actively seek it out. Antifreeze fluid is a translucent greenish color. If you change your coolant, discard the old coolant properly. If your car has a coolant leak wash off the concrete slab under your car until you get the vehicle fixed.
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Slow leaks and flat tires happen. But why worry....when Soundguy sez its OK. Right? :laughing:

 

[Hoosier Hay Man]

Found these links from Gemplers on filling tires. Liquid Ballast Supplies, Tires & Supplies - Outdoor Work Supplies[URL="http://www.gemplers.com/tech/tire-liquid.htm"]http://www.gemplers.com/tech/liquid-ballast.htm[/URL]

 

[johnk]

Rim Guard seems to me to be cost effective from what I have checked on. I had called a dealer last week and they said it would take about 110 gallons for a pair of17.5L-24R4 tires. Total cost would be $330. It would give me about 1200# (11# per gallon) total ballast. That is about .27 a pound. I know it is not readily availible everywhere.
I know I dislike calcium for sure. You have to have a tube. It eats rims and nothing worse than getting a cut tire in the field and having a dead spot. Also it seems when you cut a tire before you can get the cut on top it sprays the tractor.
Around these parts it is either iron weights or calcium. Rim Guard is catching on though.
I have been around farm tractors all of my life had not heard of using anti freeze or window washing fluid. I thought it was an intersting idea though, but does have some draw backs as well.
Window washing fluid at $1.20 a gallon and weighing around 8# a gallon will come in at roughly .15 a lb. You may have to buy a pump and a valve for your value stem. I haven't priced either one of those items.
50/50 mixed antifreeze would be around .37 a pound. Now if you save your drained anti freeze or buy a used barrel of antifreeze from a car salvage yard you can get that down pretty cheap.
Rim Guard is very competitive when you compare it by weight rather than by gallon and if availible in your area the dealer fills it for you.

That is exactly the amount I had put in mine and that was the exact price I paid. He jacked it up on my trailer pumped it in and I was good to go. Used 2 55 gallon barrels of the stuff. Only took about 20 minutes for both tires. Did you bring your tractor over here or something??

 

[Hoosier Hay Man]

That is exactly the amount I had put in mine and that was the exact price I paid. He jacked it up on my trailer pumped it in and I was good to go. Used 2 55 gallon barrels of the stuff. Only took about 20 minutes for both tires. Did you bring your tractor over here or something??

Good to know I got a good quote. I called Rim Guard and got a list of local dealers. I picked the closest and gave them a call. He quoted the price and the amount I would need over the phone. Sounds the easiest way to go and pretty cost effective way of adding ballest. I was thinking wheel weights as I didn't like calcium as an option. Rim Guard sounds better than weights.
It may be a few weeks before I get hauled in. I wish I would of done it before winter.

 

[johnk]

You will nitice the difference immediately as you raise a full loader bucket. Also doing any loader work a little off camber on an incline it won't feel as tipsy...Good luck and let us know the difference it makes...

 

[Mechanos]

Six pages on loaded tires and not a single mention of foam? I realize that foam is not "fluid", but it is heavier than Rim Gaurd for calc. and it won't leak ever.

 

[Boeing]

I just did this.....one tire was full of water, the other only air. Since I plan on taking the tractor to Va. I didn't want just water. I bought the filler valve at NAPA ($12.00 inflation, I guess). Then took the tractor in to a tractor service center (not a dealer) to get the wheels reversed and the mounting plate changed to widen the stance. While there the mechanic asked if I wanted him to fill the tires with the WW fluid that I had bought. I thought about it and said "why not..... " I offered my little adapter....he laughed....jacked up the rear of the tractor so both wheels were in the air and got a large funnel. He attached a fuel line hose to the funnel and the valve stem (after removing the valve). He rotated the tire to stem at top. Every quart or so he would rotate the tire about 8 inches back and forth and the tire would burp. took about 4 minutes per gallon. He did one side, I did the other. We filled it up to the 10 o' clock position which took 15 gallons per tire on my tractor. Then aired it to 20 PSI. Seems much more stable now with wider stance and EQUALLY weighted tires.
Many thanks to the guys here who told ME how to do this..... Rob:thumbsup:

 

[Markcuda]

Six pages on loaded tires and not a single mention of foam? I realize that foam is not "fluid", but it is heavier than Rim Gaurd for calc. and it won't leak ever.

Post some information on it so we can see what it is all about?