Fluid in tires

[Toffy]

this kind of post does not even warrant a response. it started as a red herring .

(click) (click) (click) ahhhh.. much better...

soundguy

If this post was so bad why did you jump in with both feet?
All i wanted was some input as i like the idea of fluid in the tires. After retiring and selling my company that had 4 Engineers employed all i wanted was some input from people with experience. Most engineers look at technical issues, this answer i feel was best answered by experience rather than tech,
I think you should take a good look at yourself and stop being so uptight.

 

[Markcuda]

Heck yeah...we all know Rim Guard is beet juice! Been around for years...

May be you did but you sure can't speak for all the others:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

 

[Soundguy]

If this post was so bad why did you jump in with both feet?
All i wanted was some input as i like the idea of fluid in the tires. After retiring and selling my company that had 4 Engineers employed all i wanted was some input from people with experience. Most engineers look at technical issues, this answer i feel was best answered by experience rather than tech,
I think you should take a good look at yourself and stop being so uptight.

that response was not to you, and was not about the original post. it was directed to another individual, and their previous post / reply to my post. I specifically posted that users message so there would be no confusion as to who I was responding to...

I'm not uptight... I simply have some experience with ground and water contamination and mitigation....

soundguy

 

[Hoosier Hay Man]

Rim Guard seems to me to be cost effective from what I have checked on. I had called a dealer last week and they said it would take about 110 gallons for a pair of17.5L-24R4 tires. Total cost would be $330. It would give me about 1200# (11# per gallon) total ballast. That is about .27 a pound. I know it is not readily availible everywhere.
I know I dislike calcium for sure. You have to have a tube. It eats rims and nothing worse than getting a cut tire in the field and having a dead spot. Also it seems when you cut a tire before you can get the cut on top it sprays the tractor.
Around these parts it is either iron weights or calcium. Rim Guard is catching on though.
I have been around farm tractors all of my life had not heard of using anti freeze or window washing fluid. I thought it was an intersting idea though, but does have some draw backs as well.
Window washing fluid at $1.20 a gallon and weighing around 8# a gallon will come in at roughly .15 a lb. You may have to buy a pump and a valve for your value stem. I haven't priced either one of those items.
50/50 mixed antifreeze would be around .37 a pound. Now if you save your drained anti freeze or buy a used barrel of antifreeze from a car salvage yard you can get that down pretty cheap.
Rim Guard is very competitive when you compare it by weight rather than by gallon and if availible in your area the dealer fills it for you.

 

[Soundguy]

drill pump is 3.99$ at harbor freight and a burp valve from napa or tsc is likely 5-7$...

not bad to load your own....

soundguy

 

[Willl]

Checking on some local tire fills, Les Schwab has some stuff they call "BIO-TIRE BALLAST"

Going to the BIO-TIRE BALLAST web site claims all natural and a weight of 9.5# per gal. They never actually say what it is.

Does this sound like Rim Guard / beet juice ?

Here's there MSDS on the stuff.
http://www.bio-tire.com/media/MSDS.pdf

 

[Markcuda]

Does this sound like Rim Guard / beet juice ?

Here ya go.
Rim Guard - Liquid Tire Ballast

 

[Soundguy]

rimguard weighs 10.7-11 lbs. per gallon

soundguy

 

[mars1952]

Hi Folks: When I filled the R4 tires on my JD4300 I used a home made Calcium/Magnesium Chloride mix. I had read directions on line that said to add the salt to the water and stir until it dissolved. Well I stirred and I stirred and I finally decided that I wouldn't live long enough to dissolve enough mix to fill my tires. I have a 2 gal. commercial blender that I had never used. I picked it up a the scrap yard for 15 cents a pound. I used the blender to mix the salt one gallon at a time. I added the calcium/magnesium Chloride until the water would not take any more. Then gravity fed it into the tubeless tires with a 6 gal bucket fitted with a hose bib ( I bought an adapter at Tractor Supply). I had removed the wheels and propped them on a tilt so that I could get enough fluid into them to insure that the rims were covered at the top. I kept track of the gallons of water and the bags of salt and it totaled up to just over 700lbs. The tires have been filled for more than 6 years with no problems. The tractor has a lot more pulling power and is much more stable on the hills and when I am using the loader. I didn't write down the total cost but I think that it was about $75. and the salt mix is much heavier than antifreeze would have been.
Mars

 

[Soundguy]

for sure heavier than AF mix.. cacl mix is about 11.5 lbs./gallon

soundguy