Tires fluid in tires

[jb112454]

i just had fluid put in the rears of my dk35 what a difference it makes when using the fel. i had it done at the dealer i bought it at and he only charged me for the antifreeze put 3 gallons per tire.

 

[beenthere]

What size tires do you have? Or is '3 gal/tire' a typo and you meant 30?

 

[jb112454]

the 3 gallons of anitfreeze is in addition to topping off with water. the antifreeze is just to keep it from freezing in the winter. the tires are 12.4 x 24 and i think they hold about 30 gallons each which means i put about 480 lbs on the rear of my tractor. sorry for the confusion

 

[beenthere]

Gotcha. I see you are an OK and winter doesn't mean temps that can get to -30 F. I assume the 3 gal of antifreeze will (hopefully) keep the rust down, which shouldn't be a major problem as long as the tires are filled to above the rim at the top.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

John,

With only 3 gallons of anti-freeze to 27 gallons of water... what does that get you down to "freezing point" temp?

It doesn't seem to be enough anti-freeze for the volume of water used... or is my math off somewhere...? /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif

 

[jinman]

Three gallons sounds a little light to me too, John. In my old Ford Jubilee with 12.4 x 28 ags, I think it was four gallons to get me down below 20º. I didn't test it, but that's what I was told by a tire dealer in north TX.

 

[Bird]

John, he just lives in the middle of Oklahoma. It ain't gonna get quite as cold, or last as long, as in your part of the country. And maybe he's like me. I just put 2 gallons of antifreeze in each rear tire 'cause the tractor is stored inside and if the temperature is below freezing it's extremely unlikely that I'll start or move it./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

 

[Anonymous Poster]

<pre>Updated: 04:53 PM CST on December 29, 2001
Observed at Muskogee, Oklahoma
Temperature 30° F
Windchill 22° F
Humidity 47%
Dewpoint 12° F
Wind North at 9 mph
Pressure 30.31 in
Conditions Clear
Visibility 10 miles
Clouds Clear < 12000 ft (CLR)
Sunrise 7:33 AM (CST)
Sunset 5:17 PM (CST)
Moon Rise 4:43 PM (CST)
Moon Set 6:46 AM (CST)
Moon Phase
Today Dec. 30 Jan. 06 Jan. 13


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I don't know Bird... it seems below freezing to me right now...? /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Tulsa, OK forecast...

Forecast as of 4:00 PM CST on December 29, 2001
Tonight
Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper teens. Light north winds.
Sunday
Mostly cloudy. A chance of light snow in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 30s. Light northeast winds. Chance of snow 30 percent.
Sunday Night
Mostly cloudy with a chance of light snow. Lows near 20. Light northeast winds. Chance of snow 30 percent.
Monday
Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of light snow. Highs in the lower 30s. Chance of snow 20 percent.
Monday Night
Partly cloudy with a slight chance of flurries. Lows in the upper teens. Chance of snow 20 percent.
New Years Day
A slight chance of flurries...otherwise partly cloudy. Highs in the lower 30s.
Tuesday Night
Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper teens.


Maybe he has that Super concentrated Space-age Anti-freeze... One gallon per 1000 gallons of water that won't freeze until -89 degrees...[image]/w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif[/image]

 

[Bird]

I understand, John. In fact our forecast calls for a low of 25 tonight (and it's usually colder out here in the country than in town), and I've seen it as low as 10 here once in the past 7 years; however, my tractor is indoors, even if the water in the tires froze a little slush wouldn't hurt anything and solid ice probably wouldn't hurt anything if you didn't move the tractor while it was frozen, and I have no intentions of using my tractor when the temperature is below freezing, so I'm convinced I have nothing to worry about and thought he might be the same. Now if I planned to use my tractor in sub-freezing weather, that would be a whole 'nuther ball game./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

 

[woodmills1]

been below freezin here every day i have been at it since the fri before christmas. up here tractors are half for the below freezin. mowin and plowin. coldest mornig so far was 17 and she started right up. though i go slow at first to warm the fluids.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

<font color=blue>...Now if I planned to use my tractor in sub-freezing weather, that would be a whole 'nuther ball game...</font color=blue>

So, does this mean... you are not going to Buffalo, New York to help plow out... /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif

 

[Bird]

<font color=blue>does this mean... you are not going to Buffalo, New York to help plow out</font color=blue>

Now you're catchin' on, John./w3tcompact/icons/clever.gif

 

[jb112454]

hi john, i went on what my dealer said would be enough. he has been doing that for quite some time and no problems here in ok. my 8n has fluid in the tires came that way but don't have a clue what the ratio is but did'nt ever freeze that i know of. however, i do have a question it appears that my left rear is not filled quite as much as the right can you put a little air in to equal them out?

 

[Bird]

<font color=blue>appears that my left rear is not filled quite as much as the right can you put a little air in to equal them out? </font color=blue>

JB, this makes me think that maybe liquid filled tires are new to you, so if I'm wrong you can ignore this. However (if I'm right)/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif, when you put liquid in the tires, you only fill them approximately 75% with liquid. You can get that level by jacking up a wheel just enough to take all the weight off of it, with the valve stem at the top (12 o'clock position) and you fill it until liquid runs back out. If you actually filled them full it would be very rough riding; they'd be solid because the liquid will not compress like air will. So in other words, with them "filled" properly, you still adjust the tire pressure with air just as in the past. I use an air/liquid tire gauge and also always check the pressure with the valve stem at the top and give them a short blast of air first to clear any liquid out of the valve stem (so a regular tire gauge works OK; just that if you get liquid in it, it may not last as long as one made for both air and liquid).

 

[jb112454]

bird, you are correct i am new to fluid in tires. i now understand/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif. that's what make this forum so great. thanks so much! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

 

[pudding]

use metholated spirits (spelling) for winter use......in small tires it ain't so dear either

if filling.....its easy really.........jack under the wheel.......unscrew the value......let the air out.......push on the garden hose......remove periodically to remove air........fill to desired point.........we put the valve at 11am....angle......then fill till it over flows.....

 

[Egon]

pudding:
You make it sound too darn simple and logical!!

Egon

 

[pudding]

lol.........great thing is if you turn the valve round to 6 oclock all the water comes out......great when you don't want the weight......it seems water in tires on a 35 hp tractor would be easy to handle when removing the wheels.....great for punctures.....

we fill 18.4/38 tires and 580/70 38's on our NH TM165 (165?hp), NH8560 (163hp), NH8360 (135hp).......they take a lot of water.....can be heavy when you want to move them by hand

often wonder why my boss waters his tires......cause we run radials

 

[Egon]

.great for punctures.....

Pudding:
For punctures can't you just pressure up the tire and watch for water and then put in a plug ?

Egon