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The correct tool for removing the overspray is the telephone, which is used to call the installer and tell him to come out and clean up his mess.

The second tool is the pen, which is used to fill out the small claims court forms...

My thoughts exactly!
 
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The correct tool for removing the overspray is the telephone, which is used to call the installer and tell him to come out and clean up his mess.

The second tool is the pen, which is used to fill out the small claims court forms...
Around here you can only go for $4000 in small claims. I dont think I can hire anyone to fix this for that.
 
   / Foam insulation removal #23  
But, wont it still look like bird poop spots everywhere even after sanding when I seal it?

Yes, but stained concrete looks marbled anyway. I don't think you'll notice, but I'm not that particular. Did the contractor ask if you would be staining the floor or did you tell him. We don't spend time covering floors that will have something over them much like sheetrockers don't protect from mud spills and painters don't protect from overspray. Having said that we do ask and write on the studs in the room if it will have stain or have flooring.
 
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Around here you can only go for $4000 in small claims. I dont think I can hire anyone to fix this for that.

In CA I can hire day labor for $12.50/hr, in Grants Pass $10/hr will do.

I suspect Kansas is closer to $10. You can probably rent a floor sander, buy all the supplies necessary, and still have enough left over to pay for 200 to 300 hours of labor. That is a powerful lot of floor sanding.

But, I would give the guy who did it a chance to clean it up first.
 
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Yes, but stained concrete looks marbled anyway. I don't think you'll notice, but I'm not that particular. Did the contractor ask if you would be staining the floor or did you tell him. We don't spend time covering floors that will have something over them much like sheetrockers don't protect from mud spills and painters don't protect from overspray. Having said that we do ask and write on the studs in the room if it will have stain or have flooring.

Just so happen a basement I did once hired out the drywall work, the sub foreman went and spray bright neon paint on the cement at every overhead light and at the wall on the floor where every receptacle was located, as well as where the heat/air registers were,
this was standard for him to go ahead of his crew and mark out things to be sure nothing was left covered up, He had no problem removing it when I told him we were staining the floors:cool:
Plus it helped by holding his check:D
But as i mentioned earlier the stain floor contractor will usually do a bit of sanding himself, if you are having this done ask him how much of this can he get up by him sanding?
 
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Yes, but stained concrete looks marbled anyway. I don't think you'll notice, but I'm not that particular. Did the contractor ask if you would be staining the floor or did you tell him. We don't spend time covering floors that will have something over them much like sheetrockers don't protect from mud spills and painters don't protect from overspray. Having said that we do ask and write on the studs in the room if it will have stain or have flooring.
I'm not talking about staining it, I want to seal it with a clear sealer. I had better go re-read my replies. I might have said 'stain' instead of 'seal'.
 
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In CA I can hire day labor for $12.50/hr, in Grants Pass $10/hr will do.

I suspect Kansas is closer to $10. You can probably rent a floor sander, buy all the supplies necessary, and still have enough left over to pay for 200 to 300 hours of labor. That is a powerful lot of floor sanding.

But, I would give the guy who did it a chance to clean it up first.
The guy called back and said he turned it in to his insurance company. They are to call me next week. Have no idea what they are thinking.
 
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The correct tool for removing the overspray is the telephone, which is used to call the installer and tell him to come out and clean up his mess.

The second tool is the pen, which is used to fill out the small claims court forms...
Couldn't agree more.
 
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The foam man turned this in to his insurance company. Adjuster should be here today. I hope he understands how bad this stuff is to remove.
 
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I am planning to spray some foam this summer, after reading this I am going to buy a lot of drop cloths.
 
   / Foam insulation removal #31  
I think I have seen wire "flail" paint removal tools that fit into electric drill chucks.
Probably a LITTLE less tedious than razor blade scraping.
 
   / Foam insulation removal #32  
I am planning to spray some foam this summer, after reading this I am going to buy a lot of drop cloths.

Just buy light mil painters plastic and cover. This ordeal is not as bad as is made out to be. Half a day and a couple hundred bucks will remedy the situation, which I'm sure the contractor will be more than happy to pick up. I can't see going to insurance being the cheaper route, though it is up to him and his premiums. We use plastic most of the time because it is so much cheaper than the labor to scrape the foam.
 
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The adjuster was here today for about an hour or so. He was amazed at the mess and how hard it is to get scraped.
 
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Just buy light mil painters plastic and cover. This ordeal is not as bad as is made out to be. Half a day and a couple hundred bucks will remedy the situation, which I'm sure the contractor will be more than happy to pick up. I can't see going to insurance being the cheaper route, though it is up to him and his premiums. We use plastic most of the time because it is so much cheaper than the labor to scrape the foam.

How would
you remedy this in a half day? I'm all ears.
 
   / Foam insulation removal #35  
How would
you remedy this in a half day? I'm all ears.

Are both buildings needing to be cleaned? I would assume the contractor has already scraped the floor and removed debris leaving only the residue. If so a floor sander with a few 80 grit screens will clean it up. You will probably go through 10 screens and 2 or 3 pads. After it is sanded blow the dust out and wet mop it. Once it's dry use an airless sprayer to apply the seal. I did this axact same thing on my personal 30X50 building. My rational behind not covering the floors was because there was already so much trash and sheetrock dust and mud on the floor that it wouldn't matter. We always seem to cut corners on our own projects. After scraping the concrete it took 3 hours to have it ready for seal. Everyone who sees the floor loves it and wants to know what stain we used, which we didn't. I'm not saying it won't take work, but it isn't hard or expensive to remedy. If you want pics of the end product I can send them.
 
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Are both buildings needing to be cleaned? I would assume the contractor has already scraped the floor and removed debris leaving only the residue. If so a floor sander with a few 80 grit screens will clean it up. You will probably go through 10 screens and 2 or 3 pads. After it is sanded blow the dust out and wet mop it. Once it's dry use an airless sprayer to apply the seal. I did this axact same thing on my personal 30X50 building. My rational behind not covering the floors was because there was already so much trash and sheetrock dust and mud on the floor that it wouldn't matter. We always seem to cut corners on our own projects. After scraping the concrete it took 3 hours to have it ready for seal. Everyone who sees the floor loves it and wants to know what stain we used, which we didn't. I'm not saying it won't take work, but it isn't hard or expensive to remedy. If you want pics of the end product I can send them.

NO he hasnt done any scraping. He tried buffing it off but stopped instantly when he saw it was only burning it into the cement. The pic in post 15 is about 3' square, there's a lot of drops. When I get time, I might try sealing a spot we have scraped the best we can just to see if it will accept the sealer.
 
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NO he hasnt done any scraping. He tried buffing it off but stopped instantly when he saw it was only burning it into the cement. The pic in post 15 is about 3' square, there's a lot of drops. When I get time, I might try sealing a spot we have scraped the best we can just to see if it will accept the sealer.

The overspray must be removed by scraping first. If you don't it will cause uneven sanding and you will go through hundreds of screnes. You can purchase floor scrapers from paint or construction supply stores.
 
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With the size building you have, Ideally this would be the one to use,:thumbsup: although I'm sure a smaller version of this machine would work OK, would just take longer, suggest to the contractor to try an rent one of these to remove the stains,;)
if watch through the video he will show just how much it will remove,
YouTube - ‪Concrete Grinding Equipment Video?ConcreteNetwork.com‬‏
 
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The contractor is 250 miles away. There isnt any place even close to this tiny community to rent something like the video shows. I'm still thinking....:confused:
 
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Here is after a wide razor blade and a small blade. This stuff is quite the mess to scrape but I'll get it. Hopefully
overspray.jpg
 

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