For the college folks

[Rob-D]

A guy wrote a book on types of learners and types of intelligences. They range from moral intelligence to musical and several in between (about eight or nine in all). My brother had very poor mechanical intelligence but he could pick up any reed instrument and play it from the piccolo to the oboe. I can't do that but I see three dimensionally, he can't.
There are visual learners and auditory learners. That is some people learn better from listening or reading and some from a picture, basically. When you get a manual do you immediately go to the pictures or the text?
We know a lot more about the brain today than we did even 10 years ago and someone might shine in one area and be a lost soul in another. I think Will Rogers put it very well when he said:

"Everyone's stupid, just on different subjects"

So, once again, it has little to do with how much education you have although I will admit that some education creates channels in the back integrative cortex and that does inhibit a lot of seeing different solutions to problems but this is another story.

The greatest minds are the ones who can have a great depth of knowledge AND a great depth of creativity. Take Einstein, Tesla or Max Plank for example. They had great knowledge but the ability to find create answers and see in ways the rest of us can't. Without the knowledge (education) their creativity would have never given them the answers, they needed both.
Newton, probably one of the greatest minds who ever lived, said he only could discover the things he did because he "stood on the shoulders of giants". (The educated people who came before him)

We should never think that just because someone has a PhD that they are stupid, they may or may not be but I'll bet more PhDs are smarter than an equal group of non PhDs.

Rob

 

[user.69169]

Thank you kindly Rob for bringing back to the front of my mind a couple of my favorite people.
Seems most never really read mych of what Einstein said beyond that E=Mc2 thing and they should have. I tell you there is one heck of a lot of energy invilved in either moving or stopping a heavy load like I hauled many of, and I sure came to understand that equasion.

Einstein had plenty to say on the subject of education too, one of my favorites is "Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school." Albert Einstein ... No need to believe me and for those who don't yall know how to google.
Another one I like is "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

Will Rodgers, now there was a man who sure had a good set of eyes and the ability to speak of what he saw. That quote you put up I sort of think had more to do with getting a laugh than what he saw. He should have said Everyone's ignorant, just on different subjects, and it would have held a whole lot more truth. There just isn't any way any of us can be more than ignorant given the overall body of knowledge in the world, even back in Will's time.

 

[Rob-D]

Thank you kindly Rob for bringing back to the front of my mind a couple of my favorite people.
Seems most never really read mych of what Einstein said beyond that E=Mc2 thing and they should have. I tell you there is one heck of a lot of energy invilved in either moving or stopping a heavy load like I hauled many of, and I sure came to understand that equasion.

Einstein had plenty to say on the subject of education too, one of my favorites is "Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school." Albert Einstein ... No need to believe me and for those who don't yall know how to google.
Another one I like is "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

Will Rodgers, now there was a man who sure had a good set of eyes and the ability to speak of what he saw. That quote you put up I sort of think had more to do with getting a laugh than what he saw. He should have said Everyone's ignorant, just on different subjects, and it would have held a whole lot more truth. There just isn't any way any of us can be more than ignorant given the overall body of knowledge in the world, even back in Will's time.

"Knowledge is power"
Albert Einstein

 

[Egon]

"Knowledge is power"

What is Knowledge?

 

[Rob-D]

What is Knowledge?

If you look up the definition of science you'll find it means to know.

Once upon a time people in London got Cholera, it was an epidemic. An insurance guy did a study of the cases of Cholera and found out they followed the Thames river, after all he didn't want to lose his shirt paying life insurance. His actuary tables lead a scientist to discover the water in the Thames had bacteria because everyone's bathroom dumped into it in a city that was growing in leaps and bounds as the Industrial Revolution took hold.
People stopped drinking from the Thames. Most people wouldn't drink from their toilet, why?

Knowledge.

Rob

 

[Egon]

Yes yes; all the classic definitions and all is fine.

Or is it?

Can it also mean to know what is not known in order to find the unknown without knowing what knowledge is required to find the unknown knowledge?

My dog thinks the toilet water is perfectly OK!:thumbsup:

 

[Rob-D]

Yes yes; all the classic definitions and all is fine.

Or is it?

Can it also mean to know what is not known

Jibberish!
If it's not known you can't know it!! a priori

My dog thinks the toilet water is perfectly OK!:thumbsup:

Your dog licks his butt in public, do you?

What exactly are you attempting to say?? You follow your dog's lead? You like dog food? You pee on trees?

Rob

 

[Chuck52]

I pee on trees. Seems to help the flowering plums. Of course, I don't know that; it is just an observation of a possible correlation.

Chuck

 

[Egon]

[QUOTEIf it's not known you can't know it!! a priori][/quote]


But then if that is true how did some of the older well known names like Newton and Edison do any discovering as they didn't know it existed therefore they could not have discovered it.

They had no prior Knowledge!

Would this mean that those with knowledge are only followers?

 

[Lacal]

As my granpappy use to say "you can't teach common sense, you either have it or you don't"!