Ford 1300

[Delrie]

I have a question regarding a resently purchaced ford 1300 tractor. When I pick up on the bush hog the tractor and the hog is shaking, and if I kill the tractor while the hog is up then it slowly goes down. Is this a problem or does it have anything to do with oil valve located under the seat?

 

[JC-jetro]

I have a question regarding a resently purchaced ford 1300 tractor. When I pick up on the bush hog the tractor and the hog is shaking, and if I kill the tractor while the hog is up then it slowly goes down. Is this a problem or does it have anything to do with oil valve located under the seat?

Delrie,

I responded to you PM but that is not what you described in your email. Without more information, I think 9 out of 10 the nylon lift pistol seal on your lift piston is leaking. it'll get to the point that you might not be able to lift anything. The fix is less than $10 and 45 minutes max. There is an outside chance that you might be leaking back in to your spool valve, doubt it though. it might be leaking also on shock relief mechanism at the lift system cover although I doubt it as well. I have complete tear down and reinstall on one of my thread. Let me know if you can not find it. It may not be exactly identical but it had more than enough to see the methodology. this problem can not hurt anything else on your tractor it will only be a bummer when you get stuck out in the field. You'll need to abandon your implement in field and take the tractor to the barn or what have you to fix.

JC,

ps. what you have under the seat is rate of drop knob. it does nothing on how you lift anything only how fast or slowly you can lower the implement. That is not the cause of the problem you have.

 

[Delrie]

I am a new owner of a tractor and have never owned a tractor before. You seem to know all about this tractor, so i was wondering if there was any other way that I may be able to contact you if i needed specific info on the step to take in fixing this problem?

 

[JC-jetro]

You seem to know all about this tractor, /QUOTE]

Wow, I don't know if I go that far You can send me pm like you did and I try to help. New guys are sometimes a bit bashful to ask but here at the forum you get many good responses. a little bit her or there and you'll find your answer. At under $10 you really got nothing to lose even if you tried to do it yourself. Can you turn a wrench ? Get the seal , take a few pics of the lift system head and we can help you out. were you able to find the thread I started with my seal replacement?

JC,

 

[Delrie]

ok, i understand, yes i found it, i will then start here and take some pics and see what happens. thanks a lot

 

[JC-jetro]

ok, i understand, yes i found it, i will then start here and take some pics and see what happens. thanks a lot

cool

 

[Delrie]

wheres the hyd srceen fliter at

 

[joes_427_vette]

If you intend on keeping thisd tractor I would suggest a service manual. Eliminates alot of questions and has step by step repair procedures. They can be purchased for less than two hours of labor rates at your local dealer.

 

[JC-jetro]

wheres the hyd srceen fliter at

Attach you'll find two documents. one on your hyd pump and the other one is your lift. Unlike mine, your's per NH has a filter in lieu of screen. it is more convenient than my screen any way. #19 is what you need to replace on hyd lift piston.

JC,

IT FO-44 does have the skinny on this work for about $26 as well. Attachments should give you all you need.

 

[Delrie]

Thank You this helps 100%.

 

[Delrie]

Attach you'll find two documents. one on your hyd pump and the other one is your lift. Unlike mine, your's per NH has a filter in lieu of screen. it is more convenient than my screen any way. #19 is what you need to replace on hyd lift piston.

JC,

IT FO-44 does have the skinny on this work for about $26 as well. Attachments should give you all you need.

ok one more ? do i take off the whole square piece thats under the seat or just that round head looking piece on the square piece thats between your legs,hope i explain myself well enough

 

[JC-jetro]

ok one more ? do i take off the whole square piece thats under the seat or just that round head looking piece on the square piece thats between your legs,hope i explain myself well enough

Hmmm, I'm scratching my head a bit. The lift cylinder head in not a square piece and it is a hexagon ( 6 sided square looking thing). That is # 42 on your list piston diagram that I posted previously. were you able to open the PDF attached files? it is very close to what I have on my 1700 and functionally and component wise identical to the pics below





lift assembly with the head removed.



You need to remove the head that has 6 bolts, retrieve the the cylinder and push the piston out. Notice the big fat rod that actually translate the piston movement to rotation of rock shaft #4. when you put everything back do make sure the rod is inside the cylinder and resting on the rear of the piston. Look at the orientation of seal lip, it has to go just like that and not the reverse. You have only one chance at it. Make a mistake and you'll buy a new seal. Remove bolts and put back in place in criss cross fashion. Make sure #20 and #21 o-ring is put in right. I replace mine but the old one was perfectly okay. Make sure to lower the lift handle to dissipate hyd pressure before opening the cylinder head. The square thing under the seat most probably is 4 wheel engagement or differential output shaft cover in 2 WD like mine.


JC,

ps. I don't guess if you were able to find the thread I started about this. it has got more information you want to know. you might find it useful. double click on the link below.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/new-holland-owning-operating/90819-my-f-1700-testing-my.html

 

[Delrie]

thank you jc man you are a big help oh yea sheared off my hyd screw plug were you check the hyd how would i get one of those were do i need get all my parts for this tracktor

 

[JC-jetro]

thank you jc man you are a big help oh yea sheared off my hyd screw plug were you check the hyd how would i get one of those were do i need get all my parts for this tracktor

can you rework your question and may be the part # you're talking about?:confused2: I'd get the seal from NH and the rest depend on what it is. A lot of those parst are common even with some newer TC models. Bunch of the parts can be cross referenced.

JC,

 

[Delrie]

yes i did get the other file that you had posted. thank you very helpful

 

[Delrie]

ok got the#19 seal part order and my screw plug, and i get pretty much on how to take it out and everything, but im a little confused on what you were saying about when you put it back, in how you have to have the rod resting on the cylinder. Could you please detail this one more time. Oh and when you take off the head does the cylinder just slide out.

Thank You again

 

[JC-jetro]

ok got the#19 seal part order and my screw plug, and i get pretty much on how to take it out and everything, but im a little confused on what you were saying about when you put it back, in how you have to have the rod resting on the cylinder. Could you please detail this one more time. Oh and when you take off the head does the cylinder just slide out.

Thank You again

Look at the lip orientation on the damaged seal that I replaced on mine. You need to slide the new seal with that orientation on picture #3. Do not use anything to pry the seal. it'll be tight, lube it with the hyd oil and push it over the piston with equal and constant push.

On pic#1 you see the back of the piston , the rod that has rounded end sits in there and hyd oil pressure moves the piston up and down that pushes the rod. on pic #2 you see the rod and how it is connected to rock shaft. When the rod moves in or out causes the rotation of the rock shaft and on the outside the lift arm moves up or down.

Make sure you have nothing attached to 3 point lift system. When you remove the head then by lifting the lift arm up causes the cylinder to move forward for you to retrieve. Even without the moving the lift arm you can grab the edge of the cylinder and pull it.

All of what I said is clearly shown on the file attached before. You might have a bit of problem seeing it which is okay but really it is easier than how I explain it. You just got to jump in it with two feet.

 

[Delrie]

JC, i just want to let you know that you are that GUY, thank you for helping me so much very clear now most of it anyway thanks

 

[JC-jetro]

JC, i just want to let you know that you are that GUY, thank you for helping me so much very clear now most of it anyway thanks

You're welcome. good luck

 

[Delrie]

which end did u put the seal on from having hard time geting over the piston.