Ford 1910 Fuel in the Oil and Puking Out Breather Tube

[fourbrads]

If it isn't smoking I would not think the pump needs rebuilt. Does the inj pump have its own crank case and oil level? Our old Ford's do. This sounds like something you can fix without removing the pump. We nave a 1900 we bought new in 1980. Never started quick since new. Have the hit the glow plugs even in summer. Just put the third water pump on it. My grandaddy truck patched 40 acres with it for 10 years, so it has worked. Just replaced the original tires this year too. We also had 4 Tyson layer houses for years. It has done it's share. Plus we still do a large garden with it. It's our post hole driller too.

Okay. Doesn't look like there's something I can identify as a lift pump, but here are a few pics to give you an idea.

-Jim

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

Okay. Doesn't look like there's something I can identify as a lift pump, but here are a few pics to give you an idea.

-Jim

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Have you ever checked the oil in the injection pump itself? We check six tractors every time we bale hay or use for an extended period.

Never mentioned a lift pump. Fuel is gravity fed on mine. It has oil in the injector pump. The big flat head screw under that tag in first pic is upper level oil check. Lower left is drain to change it

 

[fourbrads]

Have you ever checked the oil in the injection pump itself? We check six tractors every time we bale hay or use for an extended period.

Never mentioned a lift pump. Fuel is gravity fed on mine. It has oil in the injector pump. The big flat head screw under that tag in first pic is upper level oil check. Lower left is drain to change it

I have never checked it. Is it like a differential where the fill level is the bottom of the screw hole?

And, does it take the standard 10-30? Or gear oil?

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

I have never checked it. Is it like a differential where the fill level is the bottom of the screw hole?

And, does it take the standard 10-30? Or gear oil?

Takes engine oil. Injector pumps don't run long dry. We check our big tractors before each use. Little one don't get used much these days, but it gets checked when it does.

 

[chander]

There isn't a lift pump on that model. As for the starting on those models, you have to always use the glow plugs.
Check the resistance of the glow plugs and make sure they are getting power.
If I remember correctly, there isn't a oil overflow line connected to that injection pump. Could the diesel be leaking out of the pump by the gear into the crankcase?
There is a very good pump guy on this site, he hopefully will chime in and answer that question.

 

[azbinder]

Item #18 is shaft seal to keep oil/fuel out of the crankcase. Need to pull the injection pump to replace. Sounds like fuel is leaking past the plungers in the pump. Will over fill the lube oil in the pump and force it past the seal #18. Would suggest sending the pump to a pump repair shop.

 

[fourbrads]

Item #18 is shaft seal to keep oil/fuel out of the crankcase. Need to pull the injection pump to replace. Sounds like fuel is leaking past the plungers in the pump. Will over fill the lube oil in the pump and force it past the seal #18. Would suggest sending the pump to a pump repair shop.

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Well, that's not great news, but sounds like what my issue may be. Bummer.

Is there someone on this site that folks here trust to do such repairs?

Thanks for the advice.

Jim

 

[fourbrads]

There isn't a lift pump on that model. As for the starting on those models, you have to always use the glow plugs.
Check the resistance of the glow plugs and make sure they are getting power.
If I remember correctly, there isn't a oil overflow line connected to that injection pump. Could the diesel be leaking out of the pump by the gear into the crankcase?
There is a very good pump guy on this site, he hopefully will chime in and answer that question.

I'll check the glow plugs. I've only owned it a couple of years and it's been stubborn to start since I got it.

Found my (poorly laid out and confusing) shop manual and I don't see an oil overflow either. But it does show that the pump is lubricated via the engine oil. Cap on top for adding a bit of oil when you do the standard oil change so you don't start it dry.

Thank you.

 

[chander]

Try contacting ( pumpserviceguysc), he is a injection pump specialist.

Does your glow plug indicator glow after about 10 seconds of turning the key to the preheat position?
All of my 10 series tractors, even if it is warm out, require a preheat to start.

As other have mentioned, the injection pump uses the same oil that you use in the engine.

You may want to start a new post in the ford forum, I think you may be able to request this post to be moved to that section.

 

[thepumpguysc]

There should be an oil overflow pipe on the back side of the pump..
Most of them are self contained oil and u have to add it.. it’s usually 5oz.