Ford 2009 V-10

[Builder]

How do you justify that?

first off, if you are the drive it into the ground type, resale value is negligable.

if you hold on to it for several years, lets assume you get an extra $1000 for that $8000 option.

the only way higher resale value help the long term owner is if there is an insurace claim.

Ward's automotive did a study a few years back on resale value of full size diesel trucks versus full size gas trucks.

At 100K miles, they found that a diesel truck is worth $5,000 more than a comparable gas truck.

So if this guy "keeps his truck for a while" (100,000 miles is a while for a gas truck) he would probably get ~ $5,000 more for his truck, not $1,000.

 

[RobertN]

Oh and every time you read about some report of a Cummins or Duramax, just open the door of that Ford and remind yourself, none of those Cummins or Duramaxes are installed in anything nearly as nice.

Opinions opinions!

I have had Fords in the past, still like them, but like my Dodge/Cummins just fine. Have friends with F250's that I like, but they aint no better than my Dodge.

 

[L-ENTERPRISES]

Michelins LTX AT2 is the best all around tire out there right now ..... check it out .....

 

[shakin]

i also disagree with the dodge chassis not being as good as the ford. i have a 99 3500 ram 24 valve cummins. before this i owned a f-150 same year my dodge is much nicer indside. i bought the dodge used 3 years ago. i have heard reports that dodge has stepped up their interiors, my response is this is not a daily driver there is always somthing in the back or on the ball when it's running, why does it have to look like a cadillac indside. and i happen to have one of the diesel that gets great fuel economy i get 20 plus running down the highway with something in the back say a 600 pound snowmobile. last weekend i did some tilling it was a 100 mile round trip manually calculating i got 18.5 mpg towing a 16 tandem with my tractor and tiller on.

 

[FlaDon]

Chris:

I'd like to replace the Firestone Steeltex all-season tires on my F-250. I'd like something a little more aggressive for when the snow flies; but I don't want to go full bore off road tires because of the noise and mileage hit because of the tread pattern.

I'm partial to Michelin; but I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks,

Matt

Steeltex and the newer replacement Transforce tire come in 2 treads. HT and AT. Hts are highway while the ATs are a more aggresive tire. The ATs wore faster in the outer position on my 3500 dually.

 

[FlaDon]

Ward's automotive did a study a few years back on resale value of full size diesel trucks versus full size gas trucks.

At 100K miles, they found that a diesel truck is worth $5,000 more than a comparable gas truck.

So if this guy "keeps his truck for a while" (100,000 miles is a while for a gas truck) he would probably get ~ $5,000 more for his truck, not $1,000.

So you pay $8000 to get $5000 more back. Loss of 3K on the option without maint/fuel cost figured in. As for the V-10, it used to have spark plug problems blowing out but they got that fixed.

In 2001 Truck Trend tested the V-10 of Dodge and Ford aginst the 8.1L V-8 of GM in 4X4 dually pickups. The Ford only beat the Chevy in the 1/4 mile by 0.10 second. In towing a 10K trailer, the Chevy was the only truck that didn't have to downshift on the test grade. All three were 250K mile rated engines.

My 2001 8.1L should hit 100K this year as it's at 86K now.

 

[Builder]

So you pay $8000 to get $5000 more back. Loss of 3K on the option without maint/fuel cost figured in. As for the V-10, it used to have spark plug problems blowing out but they got that fixed.

In 2001 Truck Trend tested the V-10 of Dodge and Ford aginst the 8.1L V-8 of GM in 4X4 dually pickups. The Ford only beat the Chevy in the 1/4 mile by 0.10 second. In towing a 10K trailer, the Chevy was the only truck that didn't have to downshift on the test grade. All three were 250K mile rated engines.

My 2001 8.1L should hit 100K this year as it's at 86K now.

I didn't pay $8000 for my diesel option. I paid like $7,000.
and the V-10 is also an option. It costs at least $1,000 more than base gas price.

So with the $5,000 trade in advantage, we're down to a whopping $1,000 differential.

For $1000 over 100,000 miles, I get 25% more torque, better acceleration with trailer, no emissions inspections, no tune-ups, less stops at the gas station, dual batteries and the envy of all the gas truck guys. Not bad for 5 years of ownership.

 

[dgl24087]

I didn't pay $8000 for my diesel option. I paid like $7,000.
and the V-10 is also an option. It costs at least $1,000 more than base gas price.

So with the $5,000 trade in advantage, we're down to a whopping $1,000 differential.

For $1000 over 100,000 miles, I get 25% more torque, better acceleration with trailer, no emissions inspections, no tune-ups, less stops at the gas station, dual batteries and the envy of all the gas truck guys. Not bad for 5 years of ownership.

99YV10, 6.8 Liter 498.00 600.00 (Increases GVWR) Includes 4.10 Axle Ratio w/Limited Slip.

 

[mjncad]

For $1000 over 100,000 miles, I get 25% more torque, better acceleration with trailer, no emissions inspections, no tune-ups, less stops at the gas station, dual batteries and the envy of all the gas truck guys. Not bad for 5 years of ownership.

If you lived in Taxorado, you would get to take your diesel in for emissions inspections every year I believe versus every two years for a gasser.

 

[radman1]

I tend to stay out of these "best truck" discussions. I have had a 1999 Ford F250 V10 and currently a 2008 F250 diesel. The V10 is simply a great engine. Change oil, add gas and drive. Still using the F250 gasser as a farm truck. It has spent 80% of its life pulling a trailer of some kind. Essentially zero repairs other than a few early recall issues and regular maintenance. There are no "tune ups" until 100,000 miles for the plugs to be changed. I probably would have purchased another gasser but was difficult to find one with the options I wanted. Decided to try the diesel. I like the diesel but not it is a clear overall winner IMHO. When I bought my diesel, the cost of fuel was about 40 cents higher. Now diesel is about 30-40 cents lower but takes a lot of fuel savings to make up the difference in cost of diesel engine a maintenance. My gasser made about 10 mpg pulling loads. My diesel makes about 12-13 with same pulling conditions. The diesel with 350 hp pulls better than the 1999 V10 which was about 275 hp. However, the transmission in the newer fords have more gears and shift better than the 1999 trans. The newer V10s are near 350 hp and the difference would not be as noticeable today. People brag about the torque of a diesel but I would not have any problems with a gasser of similar hp. Just need to rev the gasser into the power band and it will perform just fine. I think the diesel torque is more about bragging rights than the price may justify.

The V10 is not much more expensive than the base engine, around $600 list.

Because of the huge rebates from ford and poor dealer sales, the price of my 2008 diesel was about $2000 more than what I paid for my 1999 V10 gasser. Both were Lariat's and the diesel had a few more options than the gasser, better transmission, tires etc.