Ford F150-I'm Done.

   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #391  
I've had good luck with my work vehicles from the 80's... didn't drive a lot, mostly in town.

The one thing I have done is change oil every 2500 miles which worked out to about 6 months... I only drive the service vehicles when I need them... and everything is within 10 miles from here.

Many people here don't realize it, but most parts of Canada pretty much default as Severe Service. Your winter temperatures are obviously higher, but with those mostly short trips, doing yours @ what is probably a Severe schedule is smart.

Rgds, D.
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #392  
Well called them before 5pm and they were supposedly road testing. But dang it... no call back this evening so another night of angst. :pullinghair:

Dave, out of curiosity, why do you recommend Dexos (GM spec'd and licensed) motor oil for a Ford product? Not questioning its quality. Just wondering as compared to Motorcraft brand or other name synthetic blends?

While I've never happened to use Motorcraft oils, my impression is that they supply a solid (good quality) oil. I'd have no issue using spec Motorcraft oil in your truck.

Had to look back a bit, wasn't sure what engine you have - looks like 5.4L. On a turbo application, I'd lean towards a full synthetic for general use, but I suspect a Motorcraft semi-synthetic would have no trouble meeting spec on your 5.4. 94 touched on filters, can't go wrong with Motorcraft there.

I change my (old) vehicles here on Severe Service schedules. The issue with doing that manually is that many people paid no attention to those written Severe Service specs. With computerized OCI, I probably wouldn't take it below 20%, w/o doing my own oil analysis.

Don't know what year yours is; if your climate is like ours re. salt damage, another thing that can cause strange driveability issues is the variable speed fuel pump mounted on the rear axle of certain F150s years. Outright failure is easy to diagnose, but some don't fail cleanly (meaning 100% dead) - if common in your area, then your shop would be familiar with this problem.

Rgds, D.
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #393  
While I've never happened to use Motorcraft oils, my impression is that they supply a solid (good quality) oil. I'd have no issue using spec Motorcraft oil in your truck.

Had to look back a bit, wasn't sure what engine you have - looks like 5.4L. On a turbo application, I'd lean towards a full synthetic for general use, but I suspect a Motorcraft semi-synthetic would have no trouble meeting spec on your 5.4. 94 touched on filters, can't go wrong with Motorcraft there.

I change my (old) vehicles here on Severe Service schedules. The issue with doing that manually is that many people paid no attention to those written Severe Service specs. With computerized OCI, I probably wouldn't take it below 20%, w/o doing my own oil analysis.

Don't know what year yours is; if your climate is like ours re. salt damage, another thing that can cause strange driveability issues is the variable speed fuel pump mounted on the rear axle of certain F150s years. Outright failure is easy to diagnose, but some don't fail cleanly (meaning 100% dead) - if common in your area, then your shop would be familiar with this problem.

Rgds, D.
Conoco-Phillips makes the Motorcraft oils... Just FYI
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #394  
Conoco-Phillips makes the Motorcraft oils... Just FYI

That rings a bell..... there aren't really that many players in the domestic refinery game today. Yes, Motorcraft is just Ford's brand name they market oil under.

Just wanted to make it clear to DE that I wasn't inferring anything negative about Motorcraft oil.

Rgds, D.
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #395  
Well I went down and talked over the options... either let them tear into it... 5hrs to get in and 5hr re assembly plus any bad parts... cam phasers, oil pump, timing chain, heads cleaned ($2000est total) and no guarantee this will eliminate the problem in the future, or whether engine has some unknown damage :smiley_aafz:

Or a remanufactured engine ($4500) plus 20-23hrs labor @ $100/hr, misc hardware so about $7000 plus tax. :hissyfit:

Apparently it has a higher capacity oil pump and updated components such as cam phasers and chain and new plug/coils. Full warranty 5yr - 50K miles parts and labor. It pains me but I am going to go with the new engine. I found cheaper comparable engines on line with up to 100K mi warranty but the shop would not warranty their installation if I brought in one rather than use their supplier. Would have saved me about $500. Decided a full warranty from them was worth the $500 in case something doesn't run perfect!
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #396  
Well I went down and talked over the options... either let them tear into it... 5hrs to get in and 5hr re assembly plus any bad parts... cam phasers, oil pump, timing chain, heads cleaned ($2000est total) and no guarantee this will eliminate the problem in the future, or whether engine has some unknown damage :smiley_aafz:

Or a remanufactured engine ($4500) plus 20-23hrs labor @ $100/hr, misc hardware so about $7000 plus tax. :hissyfit:

Apparently it has a higher capacity oil pump and updated components such as cam phasers and chain and new plug/coils. Full warranty 5yr - 50K miles parts and labor. It pains me but I am going to go with the new engine. I found cheaper comparable engines on line with up to 100K mi warranty but the shop would not warranty their installation if I brought in one rather than use their supplier. Would have saved me about $500. Decided a full warranty from them was worth the $500 in case something doesn't run perfect!

I was hoping it was a simple fix but I had a feeling it had low oil pressure. There is no way I would let them do phasers, oil pump, timing chain. With the engine having low oil pressure it has done damage to the cam journals, rod and main bearings. It would be a waste of money. Oil pump don't cause low oil pressure, excessive clearances do.

The only engine I would recommend is one from Ford. All other reman engines are junk.
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #397  
Funny thing is the oil pressure is fine or intermittently zero. :confused3:
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done.
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#398  
The only engine I would recommend is one from Ford. All other reman engines are junk.

I would argue that the one from Ford is junk too.

Dragon eggs sorry about your truck. I hope the repair goes well.

Is there anything you could have done differently to prevent this?
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #399  
Funny thing is the oil pressure is fine or intermittently zero. :confused3:



Like I have said before you can't trust the gauge in the truck. It needs checked with a mechanical gauge. I think the oil pressure has to drop to 5psi for the oil light to come on, on your truck. I can't remember off the top of my head what it takes for the VCT to work.

Is it idling very low when it drops to zero?
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #400  
I would argue that the one from Ford is junk too.

Dragon eggs sorry about your truck. I hope the repair goes well.

Is there anything you could have done differently to prevent this?

If I had an Ecodiesel that needed an engine the only engine I would use would be one from the Ram dealer. I only use dealership engines and transmissions. The rest are junk. If a customer does not want to spend that kind of money they can get a used engine at their own risk.
 

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