Ford tractor identification help!!

[jmoe425]

I recently acquired a non running Ford tractor. I was told it was a 1975 3000. i have gotten running and have very little money in it. I'm fixing to paint and clean it up some. My question is that I don't realy know whati t is. It does not have the serial# under the hood or the #stamped in the bell housing behind the starter. If I read the engine # right it is a 1965 model. Here are the #'s I have.

Motor: C5NE 6015

Trans: C5NN 7006Z

it has the 3cyl Diesel with a hi-lo 6speed. the headlight are inside the front grill.

any help would be appreciated.

 

[RickB]

I recently acquired a non running Ford tractor. I was told it was a 1975 3000. i have gotten running and have very little money in it. I'm fixing to paint and clean it up some. My question is that I don't realy know whati t is. It does not have the serial# under the hood or the #stamped in the bell housing behind the starter. If I read the engine # right it is a 1965 model. Here are the #'s I have.

Motor: C5NE 6015

Trans: C5NN 7006Z

it has the 3cyl Diesel with a hi-lo 6speed. the headlight are inside the front grill.

any help would be appreciated.

I can believe it doesn't have the tag under the hood. I'm not buying the part about no numbers stamped on the starter boss. Find and post those numbers. The info you have posted are casting numbers which are of no help. It is likely either a 2000 or 3000, probably of British or Belgian origin.

 

[jmoe425]

I have checked the hood carefully. I had it off while I replaced the head gasket. The tractor appears to have been painted a couple of times. As for the #s on the bell housing by the starter. It is completly smooth. I don't know why but it is. I would not have posted this if I had these #s

 

[dgl24087]

I'm guessing that the numbers are there but have been painted over, may need to take a wire brush to it and slowly and gently remove the paint. The original numbers weren't stamped in all that deeply anyway.

 

[wedge40]

Just behind the starter and up a few inches should be a flat spot that is horizontal and there will be at least 3 sets of numbers. If you find the flat spot but can't read then number they may have been painted or a wore pretty bad. I had to take some wd-40 to read mine. The other thing you can try is use the paper and pencil trick. Put the paper over the plate where the numbers should be and then rub the pencil over it to pull up the numbers.
3 cyl puts it in the after 1965 range.

Wedge

 

[jmoe425]

I'll try it again. I'm in the process of geting it ready for paint. I'll spray that area with some paint stripper and see what i can find. It may be a couple of days befor I check back. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Soundguy]

wire brush may help too. or paint stripper on a rag and rub over it briskly to remov ethe paint onthe high parts and leave color inthe low parts.

soundguy

 

[jmoe425]

I fianally found the #'s They were on top of the starter boss. I was looking on the side. But I still can not make much sense of them. The top set was pitted pretty bad. So here is what I think they are.


6C46B
D16
p*823741*

* = Star

I took a wire brush and used a magnifing glass. If it helps the block appears to have been red or burnt orange originally. So it may have been a state tractor or something.

 

[Soundguy]

6c46b is a structured like a date code but it has to have a first number of 1-2-3.

6c = marc 1966 B = day shift. the 2 digit number is day of week.. so might be 16 or 26.

the D16 might have bene the start of a model number.. D is for a post 68 4000.. which doesn't jive with the 66 date code.. unless you read it wrong.. ie.. 0C ( mar-70 )

The P *###* is likely a sn.. but would probably start with a C or B.. B would be a basildon ( english ) serial number.

post some pics... especially of the rear axle and the front axle.

a 3000 wil have outboard dry brakes and a light duty front with radius rods... a 4000 will have a hd front end and inboard wet brakes with bulges right at the center housing to accomodate the inboard equipment.. whereas the 3000 has standard trumpets that suck up to the rear center housing. ) ( A 4000SU will have the light front end of a 3000 ).

lets see them pics and help you id this beast.

soundguy

 

[Opti-Mist]

It's very doubtful that its a 1975. Those part numbers of the castings are 1965 design level parts. By 1975 I'm pretty sure that the 6-speed was gone.

The date code begins with the year within the decade, so it could be '65 or '75, and "C" would be March, but there is no 46th day of any month.

I'm with soundguy, pics will definitely help.

 

[Soundguy]

It's very doubtful that its a 1975. Those part numbers of the castings are 1965 design level parts. By 1975 I'm pretty sure that the 6-speed was gone.

The date code begins with the year within the decade, so it could be '65 or '75, and "C" would be March, but there is no 46th day of any month.

I'm with soundguy, pics will definitely help.

when i said 'first numbr has to be a 1-2-3.. I was talking about the day of the week.. ie.. his '46' not the very first number of the code.. ie. the decade identifier.

soundguy

 

[Opti-Mist]

Not sure I get you, sg. Ford never used "day of week" values in date codes, only day of month.

 

[Soundguy]

you know what I mean.. .. it's a day code.. like 1-31.. IE.. 46 can't be the number as there is no 46th day.

Never mind... I'll let you guys handle this one.

later.

soundguy

 

[SWGSSSlacker]

Hello all, I'm sorry I'm jumping on this thread but I'm short on time.

I have a:

Ford 1910 4WD tractor, (the larger tractor not the tinker toy)
Prod. ID *UP0337*,
Model # AP313A
Unit # 4H24B
Engine *T853A - 13664*

It has a 770 front bucket addition just for FYI's sake.

Can someone please tell me what these illuminati codes mean?
I do not know nor did the previous owner know (family friend) what year the tractor is.

I would also like a wiring diagram for the tractor as well.
Finding information on the web pertaining to this tractor and or manuals/diagrams is scarce.
The glow plug system is no longer functional and I would like to troubleshoot it with the diagram.

Thank you for any assistance you folks can give me.

Slacker

 

[DT86]

1910, but not a tinkertoy?

 

[smstonypoint]

Your tractor is from 1983 (TractorData.com Ford 191� tractor information).

You will increase your chances of getting useful replies to your questions if you start a new thread with a self-descriptive title.

Steve

 

[RickB]

Your tractor is from 1983 (TractorData.com Ford 191� tractor information).

You will increase your chances of getting useful replies to your questions if you start a new thread with a self-descriptive title.

Steve

Unit code indicates Aug 24, 1984 build date.

 

[SWGSSSlacker]

1910, but not a tinkertoy?

If you click on the link that smstonypoint provided, the picture of the tractor is normal but if you click on that picture
another tractor pops up that it is not the same size as the first picture hence the tinker toy comment.

 

[SWGSSSlacker]

I like your signature RickB.

 

[SWGSSSlacker]

Thank you for the information, at least I can narrow it down to 1983-1984 with what you guys have told me so far.

If a wiring harness for said tractor is out there somewhere and you folks know where I could get it that would be great.

As I mentioned, I was sorry for Hijacking this thread but the title was accurate and it was convenient.

I'll check back later this evening.

Slacker