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   / Forum for air cooled diesel engines and clones #491  
Are all the copper injector washers 1.4mm thick, or does it vary by individual injectors? (Or is it 1.3mm?) I have read conflicting statements.
(I mangled a washer installing it today, and I'm looking to salvage the injector.)

Anyone know the torque on the m10 nuts holding the injector in?

Thanks!

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Forum for air cooled diesel engines and clones
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#492  
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Trying to attract the complete workshop manual not having much luck.

90cummins
 
   / Forum for air cooled diesel engines and clones #493  
View attachment 679452

Trying to attract the complete workshop manual not having much luck.

90cummins

A computer is the best way. Smarty phones do weird things.

In this thread, click on the "GO ADVANCED". Then you can hit the "Manage Attachments" below the SUBMIT button.

:2cents:
 
   / Forum for air cooled diesel engines and clones #494  
Awesome! I feel like some of the steel on these nuts and studs is a little on the soft side, so it is great to have numbers.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Forum for air cooled diesel engines and clones #496  
   / Forum for air cooled diesel engines and clones #497  
I have a 186FA on a 5000W/6500W surge generator that I am having speed control issues with. I put in a new injector, having previously replaced the fuel pump. (Old fuel pump leaked around the fuel intake.) I put on a new air filter as well, and I changed the oil while I was at it (filter was spotless).

This morning, I ran a load test of 4500W for 45 minutes or so. Air temp 60F. Light smoke from the exhaust the whole time, getting slowly less as time went on. The exhaust smelled fully combusted, unlike the old injector when the exhaust smelled like diesel. The engine held speed under load, the governor functioned normally. On target voltage and frequency. I will say that engine exhaust got HOT. The muffler turned from black to a grey and the little label on the frame over the muffler warning of the hot exhaust slowly got baked black. Then again, I have never really pushed the generator before. The generator has forty eight hours of use, mostly light duty backing up the house during power outages, where the microwave and the 3/4HP booster pump are the biggest load it sees. So, yes, probably lightly loaded for much of the forty odd hours.

The problem: after I took the load off and was letting the engine run to cool down, I heard the speed drop, and noticed that the governor was pinned against the high fuel limiter. I added back load and the engine came back up to speed, and the governor came off of the limit pin. I then cut the load again, and the speed dropped. Just for grins, I tried adjusting the speed downward a few hundred rpms, which brought the governor off the limit pin for a minute or so, and then it was pinned again.

I am stumped. Any ideas?

All the best,

Peter
 
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   / Forum for air cooled diesel engines and clones #498  
I have a 186FA on a 5000W/6500W surge generator that I am having speed control issues with. I put in a new injector, having previously replaced the fuel pump. (Old fuel pump leaked around the fuel intake.) I put on a new air filter as well, and I changed the oil while I was at it (filter was spotless).

This morning, I ran a load test of 4500W for 45 minutes or so. Air temp 60F. Light smoke from the exhaust the whole time, getting slowly less as time went on. The exhaust smelled fully combusted, unlike the old injector when the exhaust smelled like diesel. The engine held speed under load, the governor functioned normally. On target voltage and frequency. I will say that engine exhaust got HOT. The muffler turned from black to a grey and the little label on the frame over the muffler warning of the hot exhaust slowly got baked black. Then again, I have never really pushed the generator before. The generator has forty eight hours of use, mostly light duty backing up the house during power outages, where the microwave and the 3/4HP booster pump are the biggest load it sees. So, yes, probably lightly loaded for much of the forty odd hours.

The problem: after I took the load off and was letting the engine run to cool down, I heard the speed drop, and noticed that the governor was pinned against the high fuel limiter. I added back load and the engine came back up to speed, the governor came off of the limit pin. I then cut the load again, and the speed dropped. Just for grins, I tried adjusting the speed downward a few hundred rpms, which brought the governor off the limit pin for a minute or so, and then pinned.

I am stumped. Any ideas?

All the best,

Peter

Not a clue really. I did find a PDF manual for it. Maybe it could help?
http://dieselgeneratorsonline.net/Documents/ETQ170F178F186FPartsList.pdf
 
   / Forum for air cooled diesel engines and clones #499  
Not a clue really. I did find a PDF manual for it. Maybe it could help?
http://dieselgeneratorsonline.net/Documents/ETQ170F178F186FPartsList.pdf

Thanks for the manual; I find each version of the 186 manuals have another tidbit in it that is new to me.

The part that has me stumped is why a light load should cause the governor to ask for more fuel, instead of less fuel. I am open to the thought that the new fuel pump that I installed is defective in some way.

I have bought my replacement parts off of Amazon and eBay; anyone have a favorite vendor for reliable parts?

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Forum for air cooled diesel engines and clones
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#500  
Very odd!!
No idea what is going on here.
I will have to think about that.

90cummins
 

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