Foster kids

   / Foster kids #61  
Dan,
<font color=blue>If these questions are to personal...</font color=blue>

Not a problem. My wife and I have done a few public speaking engagements to share our experiences...not because we think we are so great at it, but to help educate, encourage, anyone who would participate in fostering/adopting, or support those that do. For that reason I will reply in the forum...presuming also anyone can skip over if the topic is getting too far afield.
<font color=blue>How did you bio kids handle the adobted children? Did it cause a lot of stress between
you and the bio kids?</font color=blue>
Our goal was to be into long term fostering of abused/neglected teens and pre-teens. My wife was working (for years) at a shelter home that these kids pass through on their journey through the "system." These are the toughest ones to place as well...most want the babies and younger kids.
Our bio kids were (approx) 16, 11, and 6 at the time we started. It was a family decision to give it a go, but clearly my wife was the "key man" in our endeavor. I'll admit I was a bit reserved about the whole idea. After all we had a nice tight little comfortable family thing going. We had the advantage of my wife being able to observe and see which situations would have a better chance of working out if she, so to speak, "brought her work home with her." We had a couple of kids that cycled through rather quickly...didn't want we had to offer, wouldn't follow clearly established rules, etc. But for the most part, there were no problems between any of the kids that you wouldn't find in any "large" family of kids. The foster girls fit in between are youngest and oldest, age-wise.
We ended up going a ten-year period with 4 of the girls...three sisters (whom we eventually adopted because their "case" was so bad they were not going to be reconciled to their bio-home and they were "put-up"for adoption with a probable split-up. We already had them for a couple of years and said "why not"...keeps them together and we were in for the long haul anyhow)
As an indicator of how family life was, many of our recent friends and aquaintances would ask us "..now tell me again which are bio vs foster/adopted?" All the kids took some pride in just having that question asked! All good students, sports, band, activity leaders, etc.
<font color=blue>Did the adobted kids handle the adobtion, the new family, etc?</font color=blue>
It went fine...these kids came from bad situations and did not want any part of going back. We were mom and dad from the get-go. However, as you would expect, even if the outward things looked fine, these kids did come with a lot of inside "excess baggage." There was a lot of counciling going on throught to help them deal with the internal stuff. I'm not going to say there were not issues that surfaced from time to time. But these were the same types of things you can see in any family/teenager/kid. These girls were all from our city/county and are of like race. The later is not a hard and fast "rule" I don't believe. But with older kids, and a challenging situation to overcome already, it is sometimes advised not to add any more complexity into the situation...mixed race or other such variable. In my mind this is very situational dependent.

Dan, it is a HUGE undertaking. And I wish I could say that all is just fine today. As some of girls got older and more independent, there were some "tears" in the fabric that occurred. Sad, but not unexpected from a logical point of view. Very difficult emotionally however. On the other hand, when we ask ourselves if we would do it all again, the answer is yes. It has shaped who we are today. When I look back, before all of this, our world was rather small. I can't tell you how much the old boundries have been expanded. We also found a "bonus" in gaining a feeling about our identity here on earth for the short time we are here. It's a good feeling. For every challenge or "downer" there was and is an overwhelming joy or "upper" with a net positive result.

We are in our 50's and the girls are all out of the home (sort of...but that's another story) We are now enjoying the grandkids...

I better quit...this is much longer than I anticipated...hope I have helped you in some way!
 
   / Foster kids #62  
Bob,

I don't think you are being paronoid, just careful! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Home invasions occur. I have never seen in "odds" on the
event happening but I would think it would be like getting
hit by lightning. But it does happen. In good neighborhoods
and bad so I don't think you are paronoid to be thinking
about the issue...

Since you are getting information and other sources
of information you can at least make informed decisions.

Later...
Dan McCarty
 
   / Foster kids #63  
Bill,

Thanks for the info. Its provides more information
for me to chew on... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

I have seen some kids that really are placed in a tough
situation, not of their own doing, and if they don't get a hand
out of that hole, its doubtful they will make it out at all.

Sometimes you just see 'em and you know they are all but
doomed... And that sucks. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

Thanks for the info!
Dan
 
   / Foster kids #64  
Bob:

Here you are wreaking havoc on the internet while your tractor sits idle and pine's away for a polishing.

Egon
 
   / Foster kids
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#65  
<font color=blue>...Here you are wreaking havoc on the internet while your tractor sits idle and pine's away for a polishing.</font color=blue>

Yeah, I know.. I'm dying for some seat time, and going crazy because all we have is mud and every attempt to do any real work results in a bigger mess than I had before. /w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif

Polish.. now there's an idea! Either that or post something about Right to Life. Hmm.. which should it be.. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
   / Foster kids #66  
Another in the ongoing saga of the foster kids...

Please forgive my replying to my own post.. I'm trying to find out if my problem of not getting emailed replies is fixed at this point.

Anyway, after social services told us we would have six months to work with the kids before a decision would be made about whether they would be allowed to go back to their biological mother, they changed their minds.. I guess.. nobody has given us a straigt answer. But they decided the mother had done everything they had required, and that the kids would be moved back to her. Now they are starting 2 hour visits to her, and next Friday night they do their first overnight visit with her.

This is tough for all involved. The kids were starting to feel this was their home, and we were making real progress with them. The girl had a ton of pent up anger which would come out in all kinds of inappropriate ways.. and we finally got her to admit that she hated the woman who had first taken them when they initially left their mother. She felt it was all this woman's fault that her life had been ruined. There is more there.. waiting to come out.. but at least this is a start. We notified the counselors, and they were glad, after four years, to at least have this much information. They had gotten virtually nothing from the kids.

One problem now, of course, is that the kids feel like they are leaving here anyway, what point is there to cooperating and trying to live as a family? We were firm with them about this.. you're under our roof, and you'll behave with consideration! Period! They looked a bit shocked but their behavior sure improved.

My wife is taking this a bit hard. Nobody thought the mother would get her act together. To tell the truth, I don't think she really has. Picture this.. she is still married to the pedophile, and her new apartment is within walking distance to the jail the guy is in. She is also storing all of his stuff at her own expense, until he is released. Does that sound like someone who is cutting off all ties to this guy and will make sure he never gets anywhere near these kids? Sigh. But, technically, she has done what she was told to do, so the kids get to go back and live with her. Her apartment is dreary.. bare mattresses on the floors, a couch with no cushions, and some snakes and mice in cages. But the kids, understandably, want to be with their mom.. who can blame them.. she's their mother.

Life goes on. Never a dull moment.

Best to all of you...

Bob
 
   / Foster kids #67  
Bob, While I was getting my teaching certificate, I worked many years in social services at a home for kids in need of supervision. The foster system sure has a lot of faults. I know a little bit about the feeling of watching a kid you have worked with for months being returned to the same environment that got them in the situation that required your involvement.
I'll keep you and your wife in my thoughts. I know from reading about when you first got the kids what they mean to you. All the best,
Will
 
   / Foster kids #68  
Bob, Best of luck with this situation. The 10 year old we adopted a few years ago went home to mom and dad after a year in foster care. They met the minimum standard. That lasted 19 days. In that time they were left in a car alone for over an hour in the July heat, dad gassed the whole family by installing a gas dryer in the kitchen (who needs to vent the [censored] thing anyway??) and mom and dad couldn't quite make it to random drug testing (well, we have busy schedules, etc.).

If they go home to stay they may return. Then they may stay with their mom, and that's the way it works out. I've learned after a dozen foster kids and two (almost three) adoptions that many of the kids like it better with mom and dad, life is easier and rules don't exist. They don't see the future. I've also learned that mininum standard is truely minimum. Many of these parents can't possible care for themselves, much less a group of children they have created.

If they go home to mom and stay, keep in mind that you did your best for them and taught them valuable skills that they can rely on when they may need them. No matter what happens they will be better people for their stay with you.

God Bless.

Kevin
 
   / Foster kids #69  
P.S. Here is Jake. We adopted him two years ago. His had been the light of our lives. At 50 I'm trying to keep up with a two year old.

Kevin
 

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   / Foster kids #70  
Bob,

I'm really sorry to hear what is happening to the kids. Not
good for anyone.... /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

I'm not sure if you CAN or SHOULD fight the system from
returning the kids. Sounds like danged if you do and danged
if you don't.....

But since the husband is a child molester I'm assuming he
has a criminal record. You might want to see what your
state laws are regarding sex offenders. There might be
something in the law requiring him to stay away from
children. The judge in his case may also have imposed
restrictions on him being near children. The DA and courts
would have that information. And it should be public
information. I sure would drive home to the social services
people that the husband is a child molester.

If you need book references on child molesters I can get
them to you. Just let me know.

GRRRRR, real tough situation.... Its very frustrating
seeing kids being placed into these messes.

Later...
Dan McCarty
 

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