Four in One bucket recommendations

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I plan to add a tooth on each bucket corner to improve the ability of the 4in1 to grab and hold logs such as the one in the picture. It is about 16inches at the but and 20ft long. It is from a ditch and is water logged to the point of being around 1600lbs in my estimate.

 

[Gary_in_Indiana]

<font color="blue"> "Does your 4200 have the three position lockout on the DSCV? If you are going to use the DSCV to control the bucket, it's nice to be able to lock out the regenerative dump (middle position)." </font>

I have absolutely no idea how to answer that. Simply put, I really don't understand the question or know how to find out. Can you give me some idea how I might help you help me on this?

 

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Gary in Indiana,

I think your post ended up in the wrong subject? You might give me a clue on my question? I am all ears.

I'll attach a veiw of the bucket for ideas.

 

[Jim_Fisher]

Gary,

At the base of your joystick is a device to lock the joystick and make it inoperative. Early tractors, such as my 1998 4200 had a simple sliding lock pin. The joystick was either locked or unlocked. Sometime between 1998 and 2000, the lock was changed to a vertically travelling lever with three notches to secure it. When the lever is in the bottom position the joystick is locked. When it is in the middle position the joystick is unlocked but the regenerative function of curl circuit is locked out. When the lever is in the top position, the joystick is fully functional, including the regenerative function of the curl circuit.

Attached is an illustration from the on line manual showing the newer, three position locking control.

Selective Control Valve (SCV) lock lever (A) allows the operator to control the type of SCV lever movement needed for a particular operation or situation. Operation of the lock lever is indicated on label (B).

Move lock lever to the top position (C) to allow SCV lever movement in all directions. Operation of the SCV is totally unlocked.

Move lock lever to the middle position (D) to prohibit engagement of the REGEN (regeneration) function of the SCV. This position is recommended for all attachments except for the front loader. Loader operation may benefit from the use of the REGEN function. The REGEN position is available only with lock lever in position C.

Move lock lever to the bottom position (E) to prohibit SCV lever movement in all directions. Operation of the SCV is totally locked.

 

[Gary_in_Indiana]

<font color="blue"> "I think your post ended up in the wrong subject? You might give me a clue on my question? I am all ears." </font>

Gray,

Actually, my post ended up exactly where I wanted it. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I think you may have missed the fact that I was responding to Jim Fisher, whose post I quoted in mine, and not to your post even though yours appeared immediately above mine. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thanks for the pic of your bucket. It looks like a real nice setup and exactly what I'm hoping to add to mine. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

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Gary,

Off course, you are right- I missed what had happened.
I scanned back and saw the post.

I have one of the joy stick locks he is speaking of. Never have used it but may some day. It is a good safety device.

I may be posting more pictures now that I have it figured. They are as it is said- worth a 1000 words.

 

[Gary_in_Indiana]

Jim,

I'm more than a little embarrassed to admit that I honestly don't know if I have that or not. It looks familiar but I don't know if I remember it from my tractor or from a picture like you posted. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I'm guessing my 4200 has it and, further, that I've never touched it or even thought about it. As I type this I can't help but remember all the times I was clearing brush and had a branch or vine start raising or tilting my bucket. Needless to say, those thoughts are punctuated by, "You mean I could have moved one darned lever and avoided all of that?" /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

All I can say is that I'm true to my gender; 'Directions? We don' need no steenking directions!' /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[GoodGuy]

<ul type="square"> Move lock lever to the middle position (D) to prohibit engagement of the REGEN (regeneration) function of the SCV. This position is recommended for all attachments except for the front loader. Loader operation may benefit from the use of the REGEN function. The REGEN position is available only with lock lever in position C. [/list]
Would someone please explain the regen circuit, I know, I'm a bit slow but humor me please ???

 

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Gary in Indiana.

I took a few pictures while clearing today. I have one of a stump grappled in the 4in1 before placing it on the burn pile.

 

[Jim_Fisher]

Gary,

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'm guessing my 4200 has it and, further, that I've never touched it or even thought about it. )</font>

Nothing to be embarrassed about. You probably don't work without the loader very often.

The purpose of the lock (bottom position) is to prevent accidental movement of the joystick when the loader is removed. That way, you don't pressurize the circuits and have a hard time connecting the couplings when you install the loader. The middle position, which disables the regenerative function, should be used when you use the curl circuit (left and right stick) for something other than the curl cylinders - the 4in1 for instance.

You definitely have a lock of some sort. The question is which type. The early models only locked the stick and didn't disable the regenerative circuit. Not the best case scenario for controlling the 4in1 bucket with the joystick. Not saying that you can't - just that there are some limitations.