Front 2nd axle gear=have you seen worse?

[Takman]

I've seen this gear and the one it mates with break many, many times. It appears to me they didn't do the final machining on the gear surface. Even when new the two gears don't "ride" fully seated into each other.

When this gear breaks the teeth are smashed/deformed not shattered/snapped like a properly hardened gear. I've spoke with Branson about this many times over the last 8yrs but the new gears keep coming with the same crappy finish.


It is used in most of the 15, 20 and 25 series tractors.

 

[radios1]

you can.
1. keep replacing the gears when they break or
2. replace the gears sell it and buy a better brand tractor or
3.send the gear off to a gear maker and have them make a very good quality gear. there are places that will do this!.
it's probably just a cast knock off of a quality standard size gear, so a gear maker would probably have them already in stock of proper quality..

 

[ptsg]

you can.
1. keep replacing the gears when they break or
2. replace the gears sell it and buy a better brand tractor or
3.send the gear off to a gear maker and have them make a very good quality gear. there are places that will do this!.
it's probably just a cast knock off of a quality standard size gear, so a gear maker would probably have them already in stock of proper quality..

I wondered where you have been with all your useful answers....

Anyways, it's called Sintering. It's another process to make all kinds of stuff. Lots of gears are made this way and yes, even on the famous brands.

The finish could indeed be better.

Here an article explaining the process:

Sintering in the Powder Metallurgy Process

 

[mikester]

I wondered where you have been with all your useful answers....

Anyways, it's called Sintering. It's another process to make all kinds of stuff. Lots of gears are made this way and yes, even on the famous brands.

The finish could indeed be better.

Here an article explaining the process:

Sintering in the Powder Metallurgy Process

Looks more like a cr@ppy chinesium sand casting where they use the as-cast part as the pattern for the next mold.

Id be interested in seeing some examples of famous brands supplying finished gears like this.

 

[LouNY]

Is it the gears or the installation or the overloading of the front axle.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Ah, he's back.

I don't know of more than a handful of folks on TBN that have ever broken a set of front gears. And that's *any* brand. And I don't know anyone that's done it recently, last thread I recall about this was several years ago.

It doesn't happen near as frequently as a certain member is trying to get us to believe.

So here we go again folks, get ready for some epic brand bashing.

 

[Peter 315]

Ah, he's back.

I don't know of more than a handful of folks on TBN that have ever broken a set of front gears. And that's *any* brand. And I don't know anyone that's done it recently, last thread I recall about this was several years ago.

It doesn't happen near as frequently as a certain member is trying to get us to believe.

So here we go again folks, get ready for some epic brand bashing.

HAHA.......

 

[sandman2234]

I broke a gear in a front axle on a Ford 1100, but it wasn't the ring and pinon, but instead one of the axle reduction gears, so I guess that doesn't count?
David from jax

 

[aczlan]

Ah, he's back.

I don't know of more than a handful of folks on TBN that have ever broken a set of front gears. And that's *any* brand. And I don't know anyone that's done it recently, last thread I recall about this was several years ago.

It doesn't happen near as frequently as a certain member is trying to get us to believe.

So here we go again folks, get ready for some epic brand bashing.

I know of a 90ish horsepower LS tractor that went through at least three sets of the right side outer reduction gears before it got traded in.
Although part of that may have been the axle stub shaft, failure mode was that the wheel would fall off. They would replace the entire assembly from the end of the axle out to the wheel.
This was due to it having a large snow plow on the loader, the plow was below the weight limit for the loader capacity, but apparently the axle wasn't up to working at that capacity.
As delivered from the dealer with loaded tires and wheel weights (purchased as a package with the tractor, loader and plow), the plow put it over weight on the front axle, when a weight box was added in the back that brought it down to being below the front axle weight capacity.
It was replaced with a slightly larger John Deere that has a double universal joint in the front axle instead of the reduction gears and that has worked flawlessly.

Aaron Z

 

[ruffdog]

I wondered where you have been with all your useful answers....

Anyways, it's called Sintering. It's another process to make all kinds of stuff. Lots of gears are made this way and yes, even on the famous brands.

The finish could indeed be better.

Here an article explaining the process:

Sintering in the Powder Metallurgy Process

After looking close at the pictures the OP provided, if that gear is a powder metal product, who ever made it, is not very good at it. It looks like a plain sand casting to me.