Front end coming up while plowing snow with FEL mounted snow plow

[mike paulson]

Yea I was here a week ago and couldn't get any real answers in how to plow my property in float and not have the tractor jackknife up. Couldn't be simpler and works splendidly

 

[bdhsfz6]

I mounted a third plow shoe under the center of the plow frame. It keeps the FEL arms off the ground when in float so they don't dig in.

 

[zzvyb6]

Plow pitch angle (side view curl) controls this unwanted characteristic. Need a 3rd control to get this correct: lift, curl, yaw angle.

 

[ruffdog]

So the stroke limiters are limiting how far the FEL can float down but not how far it can float up. And, being that the FEL goes down when the front wheels come off the ground, the limiters are limiting that action. Float up but not down. I can see where this is an improvement, but a floating plow design would be better.

 

[ruffdog]

I see these are aluminum too.

https://www.amazon.com/EVYLNORRS-Cy...fix=hydraulic+cylinder+limiter,aps,682&sr=8-4

 

[mike paulson]

I see these are aluminum too.

https://www.amazon.com/EVYLNORRS-Cylinder-Evylnorrs-Hydraulic-Conversion/dp/B0CLZFCKR4/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3HFD9527WFURQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pmW_LGT852IMHVgEx2eeuCdzqlISYnXQfF8IPYdKvwmgFkKusylA8v6LGYOBqQ9tTMayAJAeLxUshtK1S_JJc4crOnQD4Ed5OkaG73cG5FoKfKyEZSFrNrKOz3TvMGT-CDGrY5dBHEJdStprflPRzZUSwgrPUNPUR3UZFb5QcQ16EA0_jTGzG1WJ02ULs7MXmQLzaubkBGkhbuLRRlfImc06ndgxFodjmM-JMzCIw0Q.YAafh4n2RX7BZhtmrP7eVXqQSebcY-HnWZF2j1ZaNYo&dib_tag=se&keywords=hydraulic+cylinder+stroke+limiter&qid=1733515084&sprefix=hydraulic+cylinder+limiter,aps,682&sr=8-4

A little pricey and yes some kind of cast aluminum or magnesium I think.

 

[Fallon]

Loader float is useless when going forward. As you've seen loader angles mean the tractor always ends up trying to climb over the bucket or plow.

If you want float on a plow, you need to build or buy one with float on the plow itself. My first plow I made myself. 3pt quick hitch welded to a SSQA plate, then it pivoted on the 3pt lifts hooks. Chain on the top link for float. Other than hanging out way to far & being a manual angle, it worked well. My current plow is a hard mount with power angle. More effort to manipulate without float, but it gets the job done. 8 keep thinking about rebuilding itp with a floating mount. But I've had it 5-6 years now & haven't gotten to it yet, so likely won't.

The loader weight just makes the plow to heavy to not dig in. Also the hinge being way up high creates twisting forces. Bulldozers or truck plows have any hinges down low to keep forces in-line. On a tractor loader the forces go up then around a corner causing twisting & the tractor PTO try to climb over the plow/bucket.

 

[mike paulson]

Loader float is useless when going forward. As you've seen loader angles mean the tractor always ends up trying to climb over the bucket or plow.

If you want float on a plow, you need to build or buy one with float on the plow itself. My first plow I made myself. 3pt quick hitch welded to a SSQA plate, then it pivoted on the 3pt lifts hooks. Chain on the top link for float. Other than hanging out way to far & being a manual angle, it worked well. My current plow is a hard mount with power angle. More effort to manipulate without float, but it gets the job done. 8 keep thinking about rebuilding itp with a floating mount. But I've had it 5-6 years now & haven't gotten to it yet, so likely won't.

The loader weight just makes the plow to heavy to not dig in. Also the hinge being way up high creates twisting forces. Bulldozers or truck plows have any hinges down low to keep forces in-line. On a tractor loader the forces go up then around a corner causing twisting & the tractor PTO try to climb over the plow/bucket.

Did you see the pics and my solution in my OP. Already tested and now works great in float with the cylinder limiters in pictures

 

[LittleBill21]

Loader float is useless when going forward. As you've seen loader angles mean the tractor always ends up trying to climb over the bucket or plow.

If you want float on a plow, you need to build or buy one with float on the plow itself. My first plow I made myself. 3pt quick hitch welded to a SSQA plate, then it pivoted on the 3pt lifts hooks. Chain on the top link for float. Other than hanging out way to far & being a manual angle, it worked well. My current plow is a hard mount with power angle. More effort to manipulate without float, but it gets the job done. 8 keep thinking about rebuilding itp with a floating mount. But I've had it 5-6 years now & haven't gotten to it yet, so likely won't.

The loader weight just makes the plow to heavy to not dig in. Also the hinge being way up high creates twisting forces. Bulldozers or truck plows have any hinges down low to keep forces in-line. On a tractor loader the forces go up then around a corner causing twisting & the tractor PTO try to climb over the plow/bucket.

Speak for yourself. If you have shoes on the bucket, it works fine. I run in float almost the entire time on my gravel driveway.

 

[DK35vince]

Speak for yourself. If you have shoes on the bucket, it works fine. I run in float almost the entire time on my gravel driveway.

I have skid shoes on my loader mounted 9' power angle snow plow and I never use the loader in float.
Tried it, doesn't work worth a dam floating the loader.