Front Tire Snafu

[Gomer]

I have Titan Multi Trac C/S 24x8.50-14 front tires on my B2630. I ran over a stump and put a small tear in the sidewall. I looked online for a replacement and found the Titan tire store that said muli trac c/s are manufactured by Titan and Carlisle and they make no distinction between the two. So I order one from another place(because I can save $7). Not sure the Titan store sells only Titans.
I get it and it is a Carlisle, no problem it looks the same has the same load rating, tread pattern, made in the USA, everything. I get it mounted and on the tractor and it has a flatter profile than the Titan.
I got on Titans web site and they list all the specs like rolling circumference but Carlisle doesn't go into quite as much detail.

O.K. what do I do?
1. Run it
2. Find a Titan replacement save the Carlisle for next time
3. Try to patch it
4. Give up, sell the tractor

Just found this online from another tire seller.
Your old tire may be branded Titan or Carlisle, both are the exact same tire, Carlisle now has the molds to these so they will say Carlisle on the sidewall.

 

[aggiehortguy91]

Titan sold the line to Carlisle a couple of years ago. I think that Carlisle may have recently sold them to someone else, but I'm not sure on that. I did have to replace one a couple of years ago and was able to get a great price from a guy on ebay. I think that he was out of TN.

 

[Gomer]

Got the tires mounted and measured. Carlisle is 22.75 inches high and Titan is 23.125 iches high. Not much difference but you can see in the pictures that the Titan is rounded a little more.
Bought another Carlisle and will be keeping Titan as a spare.
Lesson learned, replace tires in pairs.
Hope this helps someone.
Gomer

Carlisle_________Titan

 

[zzvyb6]

Check the overall diameters when the front wheels are off the ground and the air has been let out. If they are the same, then one has a different pressure sensitivity. You may be able to run a differential pressure to keep the rolling radius the same (NOT rolling diameter). By any chance, is one a 2 ply and 1 a 4 ply tire ? Same mold would be used for the 2 construction recipes. That would explain a pressure sensitivity.

 

[LQPAPPY]

Gomer,
Link to Goodyear/Titan Product Store with your size in a Titan turf.

Titanｮ Tire catalog

 

[Gomer]

zzvyb6: Both tires are exactly the same spec on tire(4 ply). Both rated for 1230lbs.

LQPAPPY:I got the Titan specs but can't find the same in depth specs for the Carlisle

 

[Bird]

Lesson learned, replace tires in pairs.

I know it usually isn't necessary, but I'm just finicky enough that I only replace tires in pairs on the same axle, even for our car and pickup. I can't even remember a time that I only bought one tire.

 

[KennyV]

Do a rolling circumference and compare.
With the same air pressure in each front tire, mark a spot with ink or paint and roll back one full turn. Then measure from the first ink stamp to the second. Do this on both tires and compare the two measurements.
I would bet that the difference is insignificant or nonexistent. KennyV

 

[savageactor7]

Hi Gomer in the past I've repaired the rip and just put a tube in tire...works for me.

 

[gonegreen]

I also had to have a tire replaced after only 34 hrs on my new tractor. The sidewall had a defect that started leaking this winter. 6 weeks after he said "I'll get you a new tire" (and 6 phone calls to check to see if it came in) I went down and had it replaced. Only AFTER they replaced the tire, and asked me how much air I wanted in it, did I notice the ply rating was different. You guessed it - the new one was a 4 Ply. The manager basically lied to me and told me that this was the only tire they could order. He assured me that it would not have any effect on the tractor. When I explained that the 6 Ply has a max tire pressure of 50 psi, and the 4 Ply they gave me is only rated to 35 psi max, he told me to run them both at 35 psi. Is this an issue I should be concerned about?

 

[Bird]

I also had to have a tire replaced after only 34 hrs on my new tractor. The sidewall had a defect that started leaking this winter. 6 weeks after he said "I'll get you a new tire" (and 6 phone calls to check to see if it came in) I went down and had it replaced. Only AFTER they replaced the tire, and asked me how much air I wanted in it, did I notice the ply rating was different. You guessed it - the new one was a 4 Ply. The manager basically lied to me and told me that this was the only tire they could order. He assured me that it would not have any effect on the tractor. When I explained that the 6 Ply has a max tire pressure of 50 psi, and the 4 Ply they gave me is only rated to 35 psi max, he told me to run them both at 35 psi. Is this an issue I should be concerned about?

Should you be concerned? I dont' know. I will not claim to be a tire expert, although I have been in the business a bit in years past, but there's no way I'd allow that on my tractor.

 

[radioman]

different plys on front ?! HMMMMM, when using the FEL, I would be gosh durn concerned when turning with FEL up higher then the ground, fully loaded with wet clay or something simalar. I would suspect the tractor could be at least unstable this way. The only way I wouldn't care less what plys are on the tractor if i was only doing mowing, but between you and me- I don't think this is why you bought the BX.

disclaimer- just like what bird said, I am not a tire expert.

 

[LBrown59]

I know it usually isn't necessary, but I'm just finicky enough that I only replace tires in pairs on the same axle, even for our car and pickup. I can't even remember a time that I only bought one tire.

It's rare I buy more than 1 tire at a time.
Never had an issue from doing it that way.

 

[Bird]

It's rare I buy more than 1 tire at a time.
Never had an issur from doing it that way.

And you probably won't as long as nothing unusual happens. Sudden hard braking, especially before the days of anti-lock brakes, could cause a vehicle to turn unexpectedly one direction or the other. Of course I drove a number of high speed pursuits in a police sedan and I sure wanted all the wheels to have the same traction ability. But even in your personal vehicle, you never know when an emergency situation can occur.

 

[J_J]

If your tractor is not 4 wheel drive, I would not worry about it. Just air it up so that the axle is level. If it is 4 wheel drive make sure the circumference is the same, and both tires will turn at the same rpm on the same axle.

I just re-read all the post, and he has already solved his problem. O well.