frozen clutch

/ frozen clutch #41  
The usual fat finger, no spell check post. Lots of that today. No one takes the time to proof read anything. That includes billboards and newspaper articles as well.
And do you put some thought on your posts or just write whatever your fingers put out, spell check and send it? Because most of them borderline troll and pretty much just serve to increase that post count.
 
/ frozen clutch #42  
And do you put some thought on your posts or just write whatever your fingers put out, spell check and send it? Because most of them borderline troll and pretty much just serve to increase that post count.
Look at who is calling the kettle black.... Been here a lot longer than you have, consequently my post count is higher though I've never made 'poster of the month'. From what I see, you do your fair share of trolling as well.
 
/ frozen clutch #43  
Tractor has been sitting 10 years he might as well split it and be done with it

This. If the tractor has been sitting for ten years, and for that period, either not considered worth the effort to keep running, or properly preserved, it'll need more than just clutch work! There is no point in following potentially unsafe or damaging home made tricks to sidestep the need for proper maintenance. It's really never worth half doing a job dangerously.
 
/ frozen clutch #44  
1) The brake cleaner or Vodka are solvents. Sometimes the rear oil seal leaks in tractors and contaminates the clutch disk. The oil turns to a very tacky grease causing the pressure plate and the clutch disk to stick together. As solvent can clean part of this mess and bring the clutch back to a usable condition. Tying the clutch pedal down or blocking it down while parked will also help. However, the proper fix is to replace the rear seal and clutch. Solvents will do little for a rusty clutch.
2) If the clutch has set for 10 years, rust is probably the problem. Some of the ideas presented are pretty extreme. I would never chain a tractor to a tree. You can break something that way or injure someone. I like the idea of using an implement such as a plow to create drag once the tractor is moving. Even if you get the clutch to break loose, you will never get it to engage properly due to the rust. Proper repair is to replace the clutch.

If we are talking about the 8N you have listed in your profile, it is such a basic tractor, and small, that separating the tractor should be doable.
 
/ frozen clutch #45  
1) The brake cleaner or Vodka are solvents. Sometimes the rear oil seal leaks in tractors and contaminates the clutch disk. The oil turns to a very tacky grease causing the pressure plate and the clutch disk to stick together. As solvent can clean part of this mess and bring the clutch back to a usable condition. Tying the clutch pedal down or blocking it down while parked will also help. However, the proper fix is to replace the rear seal and clutch. Solvents will do little for a rusty clutch.
2) If the clutch has set for 10 years, rust is probably the problem. Some of the ideas presented are pretty extreme. I would never chain a tractor to a tree. You can break something that way or injure someone. I like the idea of using an implement such as a plow to create drag once the tractor is moving. Even if you get the clutch to break loose, you will never get it to engage properly due to the rust. Proper repair is to replace the clutch.

If we are talking about the 8N you have listed in your profile, it is such a basic tractor, and small, that separating the tractor should be doable.
Last summer I bought a Yanmar YM2310. It had sat outside in the PNW for two years and the clutch had rusted to the flywheel. I got the clutch to start to slip by driving it in high gear. The clutch disc was still stuck on the transmission shaft. But after my son and I pushed the clutch pedal down a few hundred times it came free. The clutch was a little grabby at first but now works perfectly. It is very easy to feather.
Eric
 
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  • Thread Starter
#46  
In layman's language,will you explain how pulling the tractor might unstick the clutch? Then if you will,please explain why it's safer if plugs are removed.
i think so it doesint start but im sure im wrong
 
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#47  
The usual fat finger, no spell check post. Lots of that today. No one takes the time to proof read anything. That includes billboards and newspaper articles as well.
i aint got time for that
 
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#48  
This. If the tractor has been sitting for ten years, and for that period, either not considered worth the effort to keep running, or properly preserved, it'll need more than just clutch work! There is no point in following potentially unsafe or damaging home made tricks to sidestep the need for proper maintenance. It's really never worth half doing a job dangerously.
im geting alot of stuff fixed on it it was my grandpas tractor and i just want to make him proud and get it runing
 
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#49  
Neither am I but I do have a built in spell checker if I want to use it.

I knew what you meant the whole time. Chain it to a tree and drive away with the clutch pedal on the floor.
I do but I don't like it because if I spell the word the it turns it in to rat I don't know why but it does
 
/ frozen clutch #51  
Just hold clutch down and crank it in gear. So put it in neutral first and let it warm up so it will start easy. Ride it around varying the throttle until it pops loose. Happens all the time around here. No biggie.
 
/ frozen clutch #54  
it was my grandpas tractor and i just want to make him proud and get it runing

Fair enough, but your grandpa would not be so proud if you hurt yourself, or further damage the tractor using unsafe techniques to halfa$$ a repair. Your grandpa will be proud of you for a safe and proper effort more than the outcome of a really not correctly fixed tractor!
 
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#55  
Fair enough, but your grandpa would not be so proud if you hurt yourself, or further damage the tractor using unsafe techniques to halfa$$ a repair. Your grandpa will be proud of you for a safe and proper effort more than the outcome of a really not correctly fixed tractor!
yeah I'm sure he would be proud I have done a lot of work on the engine I took the tank of I have replaced parts im running really low on money now I don't have the money for much more I can spend
 
/ frozen clutch #56  
what spell check do you use
Candidly, I don't know as this computer as well as my wife's are both administrated by our Cousin in Illinois. He loaded all the stuff on here, I just occupy the keyboard. I do know he's running Trend Microservices as the firewall however. That is about it and I'm sure he custom tailored that as well. He's the geek in the family.
 
/ frozen clutch #57  
Most tractors I'm familiar with all have a drain bolt in the bellhousing to remove water and / or accumulated fluid from leaking engine or transmission seals and as a reference, I remove mine and drain it every oil change. Of course I don't have a clutch or pressure plate, only a damper disc in there but I still monitor what comes out to see if I am developing a seal leak or not.
 
/ frozen clutch #58  
I have done a lot of work on the engine

Okay, but with the clutch seized?


Regardless, do good quality work, within your budget. If you're low on money, that's understandable, but not a reason to do unsafe or unwise things...
 
/ frozen clutch #59  
This. If the tractor has been sitting for ten years, and for that period, either not considered worth the effort to keep running, or properly preserved, it'll need more than just clutch work! There is no point in following potentially unsafe or damaging home made tricks to sidestep the need for proper maintenance. It's really never worth half doing a job dangerously.
Your view is typical when people inter conversations about hobbies they have no interest in. Some people prefer wearing new cowboy hats while driving little foreign made tractors. Some would rather wear ball caps and get dirt under their nails as part of owning old domestic machines. One has little to no interest in the other and thereby don't qualify jn passing judgment on the other. That is true of ANY HOBBY you can name. Hunting is fraught with danger but millions do it despite millions of others attempting to ban the pratice for the benifit of all mankind. As we speak,someone is pulling a rusted out,80 year old car out of a ditch with plans of spending more on it than a new one cost's. The fact a cut from rusty metal might result in tetanus or they might be crushed beneath the car doesn't deter them.
 
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#60  
Okay, but with the clutch seized?


Regardless, do good quality work, within your budget. If you're low on money, that's understandable, but not a reason to do unsafe or unwise things...
sometimes the unsafe way is the best way to stay within the budget
 

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