Fuel Injector Setting spring pressure

[mllud]

Pumpman or anyone else that knows.
Do these fitting on a pop tester fit a cav injector pump. High pressure pipes 'A' and 'B' type with m.m. size nuts (12 X 1.5) and (14 X 1.5) for connections.
It also says. For nozzle size R, S and T
Here is the pop tester I'm looking at. Diesel Injector Nozzle Tester Pop Pressure Tester Dual Scale 6-8 PSI BAR | eBay

I did adjust the injectors using the injector pump and cranking the engine to set the injector nozzle pressure. I kept adjusting the spray to the smallest atomized pattern I could get on all three injectors. Since this adjustment is at cranking speed I added a quarter turn extra to the spring to slow pop off at a higher rpm. This is not by any book but the tractor ran. It was flooded and took a minute to clear up. Its still smoking a little but it smoked some before. I needed to get it started to leak check all my new power steering lines and new fuel lines. I had to tighten up one power steering fitting and a couple fuel leaks. I'm about to scrap the old dual filters and buy a new set. I need to leak check before putting the dash back on and blocking access to the plumbing.
I will order the pop off tester to reset the injectors to spec. I just need to know it has the right fittings to hook it up. All t could find on the fittings is that its Bhp or bp- something. I lost that link. I know its a British fitting.

The pop tester is just like the one [radios] gave me a link to.
Thank's to everyone for your help

 

[thepumpguysc]

Yes, they are a "standard" thread & the pop tester will have the line..
Why not save the 90 bucks & shipm to me.??

 

[mllud]

Yes, they are a "standard" thread & the pop tester will have the line..
Why not save the 90 bucks & shipm to me.??

That's a generous offer! I had that thought when you said in the other post the you set them.
There is a local diesel shop but I was warned by a neighbor not to go there. Could be the neighbor that is a guy that's never happy.
I think I would prefer to send them to you.

I was getting to order this sealing washer set on ebay but if you sell these parts I would buy them from you. Injector Seal Kit for Massey Ferguson with Direct Injection - Set of 3 | eBay

Ill P.M. you or you could P.M me with a shipping address. I really appreciate the offer.

I ran it for about 15 minutes yesterday. I wanted to see what it would do cold today. Smoke came rolling out like a coal train when I cranked it. I just stopped and pulled the injectors out to get them set.

Off topic
Yesterday I wanted to also check the lifting arms for the three point. Since its a backhoe it appears that the three point has never been used I pushed the arms down and the arms raised like they should. I think the draft lever should be in the up position but the lock knob is stuck for now. I don't know if they will lift with a load.
The paint still in the mounting holes looks original. The lift and draft levers look unused. I'm also fortunate it was ordered with a p.t.o. Some backhoes don't have one.
Got off topic here but I have a question about the three point lift in these tractors. I have been trying to verify that the pump only runs when activated by moving the lift lever.
Is it inactive the rest of the time? Idle? Not moving any pump parts? I could have started another thread but it's one/3 question.
I also plan to brush hog and grade the road. And use the backhoe
Thanks

 

[aczlan]

If it's like my David Brown, there is a pressure relief valve on the output side of the pump that is tied into the 3 point control, so if the 3 point is at its set height, there is little or no pressure being built by the pump unless you put it into "Constant Pumping" mode.

Aaron Z

 

[mllud]

If it's like my David Brown, there is a pressure relief valve on the output side of the pump that is tied into the 3 point control, so if the 3 point is at its set height, there is little or no pressure being built by the pump unless you put it into "Constant Pumping" mode.

Aaron Z

I don't think it has a constant pumping mode unless its constantly pumping when the pto is engaged.
I was thinking about what the pump has been doing during 58 years of non use. It could have been used but doesn't look like it. Hopefully just resting in oil.
I almost bought a David Brown once. Cant remember the model. I was afraid of getting parts. This was before the internet. A different world then. This was green and red territory then. Near St. louis. Mo. is home.
Suppose constant pumping mode is for an attachment. My front pump does that

 

[aczlan]

I don't think it has a constant pumping mode unless its constantly pumping when the pto is engaged.
I was thinking about what the pump has been doing during 58 years of non use. It could have been used but doesn't look like it. Hopefully just resting in oil.
I almost bought a David Brown once. Cant remember the model. I was afraid of getting parts. This was before the internet. A different world then. This was green and red territory then. Near St. louis. Mo. is home.
Suppose constant pumping mode is for an attachment. My front pump does that

Constant Pumping was intended to use something like a dump wagon or single acting cylinder to lift something (mower conditioner cutter head?) running off of the funky shaped cover on the top of the transmission cover (just in front of the seat on the right side), it should look like this:

You could attach a hose and a quick disconnect to it for a single acting cylinder, or replace it with a selector valve like this:

Given that you have a front pump, I would use that if you need rear remotes, you will have much better flow that way.

Aaron Z

 

[mllud]

Constant Pumping was intended to use something like a dump wagon or single acting cylinder to lift something (mower conditioner cutter head?) running off of the funky shaped cover on the top of the transmission cover (just in front of the seat on the right side), it should look like this:

You could attach a hose and a quick disconnect to it for a single acting cylinder, or replace it with a selector valve like this:

Given that you have a front pump, I would use that if you need rear remotes, you will have much better flow that way.

Aaron Z

I do recognize that on my 203. So I need to do some more research. I'm just getting familiar with this tractor. New to Massey Ferguson. Run a plow cylinder

 

[aczlan]

I do recognize that on my 203. So I need to do some more research. I'm just getting familiar with this tractor. New to Massey Ferguson. Run a plow cylinder

Front plow going up and down, or an angled blade?

Aaron Z

 

[mllud]

Front plow going up and down, or an angled blade?

Aaron Z

I have an old John deer 2 bottom plow with a single acting cylinder to lift and gravity down is what I was thinking about.
I probably wouldn't use that on this tractor though. I was just thinking about its uses. Since the front pump is there and already has the diverter valve for front or back I may never need it. I suppose the constant pumping is on one of the two side levers at a specific position. They are stamped for different positions but I need to scrape the paint off to read them better. I Didn't know about that feature though.

I've had my hands full with replacing steering lines , fuel lines and the wiring so far.
Then I took the injectors apart without marking position.
What I don't know is how a bunch of hard crusty black stuff got past the filters clogging one injector line and filling the area around the springs on the other two injectors . Its gritty. When I put the seal kit in the injector pump it was in the pump body also. Does that off road diesel fuel do that. It may have sat for a few years without running at some point. 10 years , I m guessing. The fuel return lines were blocked up completely. I had to replace them. It was running on 2 cylinders.
What does diesel fuel do if it sits for years.

 

[thepumpguysc]

On that injector seal kit question, I have the Cork dust seals instead of the Rubber ones in the picture..they go around the upper part of the inj.
It does make a difference in the height of the injector.. SO IF u have the rubber, ur better off getting the 1's off ebay.

I'll shoot u a PM.