Fuel Starvation - engine quits

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TractorTenderfoot

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My low-time (233 hour) tractor (JD 2032R) would quit after a random period of time. After waiting some random period, the tractor would run fine for a while, then quit. In the process of quitting, the engine slowly reduced RPM until it quit. I have identified the problem - it was some relatively large contamination in the tank that restricted the gravity flow of fuel - but only occasionally and randomly.

It would run for a random period, maybe 5 minutes, or even an hour until the RPM decreased, then the engine quit. It would not restart without waiting some random amount of time. Usually if I waited overnight, it would start up and run for a random period of time and then quit again. I believe that the fuel tank blockage allowed fuel to gravity feed slowly until it filled up the fuel line, the sediment filter, the primary and secondary fuel filter and allowed the engine to start and run until the restriction in the tank meant insufficient fuel was available.

Several helpful suggestions included that the fuel pump quit when overheated, faulty injectors, relay problems, air intake problems, etc.

After cleaning the sediment filter / water collector, I changed the spin filter. The tractor ran fine for a while after those actions, but I believe it was not the filters, but simply sufficient fuel had gravity fed to fill them up that allowed the tractor to run again.

Ultimately, after the tractor quit again, to troubleshoot, I removed the fuel line that came directly from the bottom of the tank and the fuel was dripping out, not flowing. A puff of air into the fuel line dislodged the contamination and the fuel flowed freely. The tractor engine started and ran well after that.

Now I need to figure out the easiest way to remove the contamination from the tank.

In conclusion, it turns out to be another example of Occam's Razor - "When presented with competing hypotheses about the same prediction and both hypotheses have equal explanatory power, one should prefer the hypothesis that requires the fewest assumptions."

In other words, the simplest solution is often the most likely.
 
   / Fuel Starvation - engine quits #2  
I had a contaminated tank and hooked it up to a fuel pump and used it as a vacuum cleaner sucking up the bottom of the tank and then ran biocide…

It’s been good since… it was too much work to pull the tank so I was fortunate my vacuuming idea worked.

I attached a length of copper tubing to the clear pick up tubing.
 
   / Fuel Starvation - engine quits
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I had a contaminated tank and hooked it up to a fuel pump and used it as a vacuum cleaner sucking up the bottom of the tank and then ran biocide…

It’s been good since… it was too much work to pull the tank so I was fortunate my vacuuming idea worked.

I attached a length of copper tubing to the clear pick up tubing.
Thanks for the suggestion, ultrarunner!
 
   / Fuel Starvation - engine quits #4  
Years (1970's) ago a friend bought a new Ford pickup. A short time later it began to stall as Tenderfoot described.
He fought that stalling problem for a year before he removed the nearly empty gas tank and emptied it into a 5G pail.
He added a gallon of gas, sloshed it around the emptied that into the pail. He said out came a round disc painted on one side the same color as the truck.
He said Ford would not acknowledge the truck had been repainted, but the disc was the same size as the tank filler neck.
He never had another stalling issue.
 
   / Fuel Starvation - engine quits #5  
The problem so many fuel tanks are odd shaped so it seems like it would be difficult to clean it without removing. As you probably know pulling the tank would be best but probably a several hour job.
 

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