Garage Heater

[KentT]

I still have to ask how does that justify the company putting an unsafe product on the market?
How do you get that the more defective products one purchase the more justified the Company is in selling it to them ?
I don't buy the it's wrong to sell you one defective product but it's ok to sell me 3 of them mind set.
== L B ==
PS
I still don't get the logic behind if 3 people buy a defective product shame on the company but if one person buys 3 defective products shame on the consumer and the company is absolved of any wrong doing.
Help somebody pleas explane such line of reasoning to me.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein,

 

[LBrown59]

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein,

So how does this give Mr Heater the right to put unsafe products on the market ?????
The is not about how many heaters I bought or my reason for doing so.
The unanswered question is does Mr heater have the rite to market unsafe products?

 

[ccsial]

If you really want to do it right and you plan on staying in your home I'd suggest a Modine unit heater. It is more work to install and must be vented but it hangs from the ceiling so it does not get in the way. It has a good fan and will heat the garage very quickly and is about the safest way to go. It will dry out the garage and cars instead of generating a lot of moisture too. I use a wall mount thermostat in the garage. I put in a 75000 BTU unit but 30000 would probably be perfect for a two car garage.

If your uninsulated door is steel it will, under certain conditions, have a lot of moisture form on it with an unvented heater. When you open it then it drips. It also causes the door bottom to freeze when the heat is off. I have this trouble on one of my un-attached garages I heat with a salamander on occasion.

 

[KentT]

So how does this give MR Heater the right to put unsafe products on the market ?????
I'm not on trial here Me Heater is!

Not saying Mr Heater has done anything right or wrong -- I'm responding to your question about why people are picking on you...

 

[cast_and_blast]

So how does this give MR Heater the right to put unsafe products on the market ?????
I'm not on trial here Me Heater is!

LBrown59 -

They (Mr. Heater Co.) do not have that right. They identified a problem with a specific batch of heaters (55,000 of the Big Buddy manufactured between September 2004 and December 2004) of which 26 had reported failures with no inujuries. They did a recall of the units and resolved the problem.

You post in this forum about what a lousy product they make and how dangerous these heaters are - this is based on your experience of having 3 of them "explode" while in your use.

Point 1 - the heaters marketed and sold today by Mr. Heater are safe and in use by many thousands of consumers.

Point 2 - one could argue that a rational person (in the legal sense, no personal affront here) would not purchase the same product over and over when they have had the experience of them exploding and, per their own reports, nearly causing burns, loss of personal property and/or bodily injury.

Point 3 - it's irresponsible to post on a forum that a given product is dangerous and under recall (in this case a current Mr. Heater product) when, in fact, they are not. You were espousing your opinions as fact; I called you on it and did the legwork to present the facts - simple as that.

Good luck, keep warm and Merry Christmas!

Scott

 

[cast_and_blast]

I use a propane torpedo heater that is thermostatically controlled with electronic ignition and electric blower fans.

I don't keep my garage heated all the time - this is a special use item. It works well for me because I'm usually working on something (i.e. car, truck) and I can direct the heat where I need it.

I did get a longer hose for it so I can keep the propane tank outside - I usually route it under the overhead door which I keep open a bit.

Scott

 

[LBrown59]

If you really want to do it right and you plan on staying in your home I'd suggest a Modine unit heater. It is more work to install and must be vented but it hangs from the ceiling so it does not get in the way. It has a good fan and will heat the garage very quickly and is about the safest way to go. It will dry out the garage and cars instead of generating a lot of moisture too. I use a wall mount thermostat in the garage. I put in a 75000 BTU unit but 30000 would probably be perfect for a two car garage.

If your uninsulated door is steel it will, under certain conditions, have a lot of moisture form on it with an unvented heater. When you open it then it drips. It also causes the door bottom to freeze when the heat is off. I have this trouble on one of my un-attached garages I heat with a salamander on occasion.

My ultimate goal is an outdoor combination furnace and air conditioner contained in one cabinet for my 30 x 52 garage/shop.
I am not talking heat pump here.
== L B ==

 

[Perdido]

I also have a heater like this 35,000 BTU Forced Air Heater not the same brand. My barn is 26ft by 33ft and it only take about 10 min to warn it up. But that is in Alabama, a five gallon tank last forever with my unit. Good luck with your purchase.

 

[MAYOR8020]

HI what you should look @ is a hanging heater from ceiling i have used vent free and torpedo type this is by far the best i have used the one i have is a modine (dig dawg) its like 95% eff. and vents out wall (power vent)
the thing i dont like about vent free is that they burn fumes like brake cleaner
and its real bad i mean real bad. if you want to use mr heater they have one 2 #260045 (nat. gas) this unit is 45000 btu. my hot dawg is 60000 btu in a 34x40 10' ceil insu garage 3 oh doors insu. 6 windows and this heater works
WELL i keep it @ 50deg. and can go to 70 in 5-8 min you shoulld check this out it will be worth your while 3
dws

 

[LBrown59]

HI what you should look @ is a hanging heater from ceiling i have used vent free and torpedo type this is by far the best i have used the one i have is a modine (dig dawg) its like 95% eff. and vents out wall (power vent)
the thing i dont like about vent free is that they burn fumes like brake cleaner
and its real bad i mean real bad. if you want to use mr heater they have one 2 #260045 (nat. gas) this unit is 45000 btu. my hot dawg is 60000 btu in a 34x40 10' ceil insu garage 3 oh doors insu. 6 windows and this heater works
WELL i keep it @ 50deg. and can go to 70 in 5-8 min you shoulld check this out will be worth your while

Where ?

 

[johnk]

Any source of flame down low especially in a garage are a recipe for disaster. Gasoline, propane fumes propane etc. hang low to the ground just waiting for a source of ignition. You just might end up heating the neighborhood. A suspended unit heater or infra reds on the ceiling are the best for for an explosive enviroment.

 

[LBrown59]

One last comment that falls into the "for what it's worth" catagory:
If you're going to spend much time at all in the garage you may want to consider installing insulation. It'll not only keep the heat in but will keep the heat out in the summer. We made the mistake of not insulating our attached garage when we built our house 4 years ago. Thought was "it's not heated so why insulate it?" The summer sun made it a real oven. I bit the bullet and tore off the drywall, insulated it and redrywalled it. A lot of extra work but now it's comfortable in there.
When I built my shop I made sure I insulated it well. Now it's cool in the summer and easily warmed in the winter.

*Insulation will pay for itself pretty quick.

*Insulation only saves fuel when combined with a thermostat controlled heater.

 

[KentT]

*Insulation only saves fuel when combined with a thermostat controlled heater.

Insulation will help retain heat regardless of who/what is controlling when that heat source is turned on or off, or even if it can be...

Insulation will help retain heat in a building heated with an old-fashioned non-airtight, non-thermostat controlled wood heater like a pot-bellied stove...

 

[Dougd]

I use a 35K BTU Kerosene salamander to heat my 2-car drywalled-and-painted-but-not-insulated shop; warms the place up real nice and quickly. Drawbacks: it's noisy and smelly, even using the $7+/gallon filtered fuel from the local Home Depot, and a PITA to refuel. Produces an incredible amount of moisture, the taped joints in the drywall have all come loose and the painted walls are speckled with mold after only 1 year; what was once a beautiful shop looks like crap. AND, most of my tools now have a thin film of rust covering them.
Looking to put in an electric ceiling-hung unit ASAP, the amount of moisture in Kerosene and the amount of damage it can cause was a surprise to me. I assume LP or Natural gas would be "better" than Kero, but that's only a guess.

 

[53gravely]

I never thought of the moisture never crossed my mind. I have to find out how much moisture is in natural gas.....don't need a bunch of rusty tools nd machines...glad you brought that up!

 

[LBrown59]

I never thought of the moisture never crossed my mind. I have to find out how much moisture is in natural gas.....don't need a bunch of rusty tools nd machines...glad you brought that up!

It's the un vented factor not type of fuel used.== L B ==.

 

[LBrown59]

1*Insulation will help retain heat regardless of who/what is controlling when that heat source is turned on or off, or even if it can be...
2*Insulation will help retain heat in a building heated with an old-fashioned non-airtight, non-thermostat controlled wood heater like a pot-bellied stove...

1*But if the flame isn't turned off or reduced fuel consumption will be the same for insulated or un insulated.
2*but the pot-bellied stove will consume the same amount of fuel in either case.
== L B ==

 

[KentT]

1*But if the flame isn't turned off or reduced fuel consumption will be the same for insulated or un insulated.
2*but the pot-bellied stove will consume the same amount of fuel in either case.
== L B ==

Not if you're smart enough to stop feeding it fuel when it gets too hot in there to be comfortable...

But then, considering you've never demonstrated the ability to stop, once started, I can see why you'd think that way...

 

[kennyd]

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