GC1710 loader acting strange

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99FrcVern

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Massey Ferguson GC1710
For some reason I've noticed my fel is having a issue with the tilt function when I go to dump things. Its curls without a issue. But seems to hesitate when I try to dump. Any help would be great
 
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First thing I'd do is double check your hydraulic fluid level of its while extending cylinders. Other than that are you leaking any fluids anywhere?
 
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Check to make sure all the pivot points are tight and greased.

Do you hear any hydraulic noise on tilt like pressure being released?
 
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The level on the sight glass is good. Im going to do a hydraulic fluid change tonight, I had a small leak on one of the lines going to the backhoe from a weak crimp but that was fixed a while back.
 
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For some reason I've noticed my fel is having a issue with the tilt function when I go to dump things. Its curls without a issue. But seems to hesitate when I try to dump. Any help would be great


Your loader has a quick dump function I believe. When you dump, you can push the lever PART way or all the way .. can't remember which is the quicker dump function. Most people don't know this.
 
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That's what I forgot to ask, did this just start or has this been going on since ownership?
 
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For some reason I've noticed my fel is having a issue with the tilt function when I go to dump things. Its curls without a issue. But seems to hesitate when I try to dump. Any help would be great

It wants to know if your sure you want to dump it :) Your probably hitting a sweet spot between normal dump and quick dump.
 
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It wants to know if your sure you want to dump it :) Your probably hitting a sweet spot between normal dump and quick dump.

I agree - always good to be polite and ask! haha
 
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There is a chance that there is air in the system that has not bled out.
Raise the loader as high as you can, to invert the dump cylinders. Then cycle the curl function from full extend to full retract a few times.
Might purge the suspected air out.
 
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I recall watching a video on YT some time back where a 1720 owner was having an issue with a joystick not fully functioning in one direction. Opened up the casing and saw that the pivot mechanism to convert joystick movement to hydraulic flow had come loose and was not linking properly. Something to look at if not found in any other suggested fix.

The odd time, my 2410 gives me bupkus when I ask for dump on the loader. It's not often, but when it gets bad, that is what I will be looking at.
 
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It wants to know if your sure you want to dump it :) Your probably hitting a sweet spot between normal dump and quick dump.
This is likely the issue. I have that happen to me as well and it seems I must have the lever between the 2 functions.
 
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I do not own a GC but the loader valves (on my MF2660 and others) are one of my pet peeves. Not saying this is your issue but I had that "won't dump" issue on mine a few years back. Mine was a NIMCO brand. When it was new or still under warrantee AGCO replaced it with another bad one that had exactly the same problem. Come to find out there were bad ones in the parts chain warehouses. I found several other 2660s with the same problem on the dealer's lot !! Finally I went to the NIMCO USA tech people (they are made overseas but sold and supported out of Wis I think it was) and NIMCO admitted "some bad ones got out of their shop." To shorten the story, the tolerances along the length of the spools can all be 'good' but if all are on the same edge of good they can add up to trouble. NIMCO sent me a kit which I installed and fixed mine to about the 95% level. On larger tractors that loader valve is a $1100 item.

As someone else said you might have loose cable connections under the base of your joystick too... I had that once as well.

Now my opinion: the blasted quick dump and 'go into regen' positions on loader valves are trouble going somewhere to happen. I would 100 times rather have a good old simple no bullcrap loader valve that worked 100% of the time like it should. The fancy stuff may be handy for heavy users but they cause way more trouble than they are worth in my opinion.
 
 
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