Gc1725 lift problems help!

[Jones8935]

Please help. I am trying to help my husband. He is so busy. We have a massey ferguson gc1725. We have attached a mower to it. Got all the attachment locations figured out. Pto shadt works great. The tractor we bought was used and our first. The lift lever is not working. We have identified the section having problems but I can't find how to fix or even trouble shoot it. Is there any ideas or specifics I can throw at my husband to ask him if _____ is engaging or working to help identify and fix the problem? It has enough hydronic fluid and lubrication are great. He already did all of that through the tractor. The back hoe worked just fine when attached. It's just the lifting of the mower to fun it that is not working at all.
Thank you in advance for any advice.
I will let my husband know about this post so if someone says something we can follow up.

 

[kenmbz]

check the lock and speed levers that are under the seat by the floorboards.
They adjust lift and will likely be set slow or in lock.

 

[jeff9366]

Is your mower a center-mounted, under-tractor "belly" mower or a Three Point Hitch (rear) mounted mower of one type or another?

 

[Dmacleo]

lift speed will in no way be affected by turning the knob to adjust drop speed.
i would say you removed the backhoe and did NOT cross connect the blue-blue/yellow hoses. That can, and will, break your whole lift/drop system.as well as ruin your transaxle.

edit: added warning about transaxle.

 

[Jones8935]

check the lock and speed levers that are under the seat by the floorboards.
They adjust lift and will likely be set slow or in lock.

We adjusted the speeds and still got nothing.

 

[Jones8935]

Is your mower a center-mounted, under-tractor "belly" mower or a Three Point Hitch (rear) mounted mower of one type or another?

3 point attachment

 

[Jones8935]

lift speed will in no way be affected by turning the knob to adjust drop speed.
i would say you removed the backhoe and did NOT cross connect the blue-blue/yellow hoses. That can, and will, break your whole lift/drop system.as well as ruin your transaxle.

edit: added warning about transaxle.

That's a new thought. Thank you!!! We will check that later today. I have been going over all that I can to figure this out.

 

[Flatrockcorner]

There are videos on YouTube showing how to disconnect or reconnect the backhoe on a GC 1725 it’s also so shows the hydraulic hose connections

 

[irvingj]

I agree with Dave -- it sounds as though the connections are not correct or are incomplete.

When you remove the backhoe, you end up disconnecting THREE hoses, but TWO of those hoses need to be connected to each other after the backhoe is removed. The third hose just hangs there unconnected (fasten it up out of the way, however).

Note also that the 3-point hitch system is the same system that raises & lowers a mid-mount mower (as well as 3PH implements).

Usually the hoses have colored nylon tie-wraps on them for identification, but they could have fallen off. If they're there, connect hoses with like-colored tie-wraps.

The two hoses that get connected together (called the "return loop") will, obviously, be equipped with one male and one female quick coupler. On my tractor, that one hose that does double duty has two colored tie-wraps on it, one indicating its BH connection and one indicating return loop connection.

Hope this helps.

 

[Jones8935]

I agree with Dave -- it sounds as though the connections are not correct or are incomplete.

When you remove the backhoe, you end up disconnecting THREE hoses, but TWO of those hoses need to be connected to each other after the backhoe is removed. The third hose just hangs there unconnected (fasten it up out of the way, however).

Note also that the 3-point hitch system is the same system that raises & lowers a mid-mount mower (as well as 3PH implements).

Usually the hoses have colored nylon tie-wraps on them for identification, but they could have fallen off. If they're there, connect hoses with like-colored tie-wraps.

The two hoses that get connected together (called the "return loop") will, obviously, be equipped with one male and one female quick coupler. On my tractor, that one hose that does double duty has two colored tie-wraps on it, one indicating its BH connection and one indicating return loop connection.

Hope this helps.

It does. We didn't get a chance to get the tractor yesterday but will today. We don't have the hoses connected at all that I am aware. Thank you so much!! Hopefully this is our missed step. Thank you the explanation. I can understand that and can know for the future uses.

 

[Dmacleo]

It does. We didn't get a chance to get the tractor yesterday but will today. We don't have the hoses connected at all that I am aware. Thank you so much!! Hopefully this is our missed step. Thank you the explanation. I can understand that and can know for the future uses.

if you've only got 20-30 minutes of run time and implement lift attempts you should be safe damage wise.
if you got hours on it with backhoe off then...well...different story.

 

[Dmacleo]

I agree with Dave -- it sounds as though the connections are not correct or are incomplete.

When you remove the backhoe, you end up disconnecting THREE hoses, but TWO of those hoses need to be connected to each other after the backhoe is removed. The third hose just hangs there unconnected (fasten it up out of the way, however).

Note also that the 3-point hitch system is the same system that raises & lowers a mid-mount mower (as well as 3PH implements).

Usually the hoses have colored nylon tie-wraps on them for identification, but they could have fallen off. If they're there, connect hoses with like-colored tie-wraps.

The two hoses that get connected together (called the "return loop") will, obviously, be equipped with one male and one female quick coupler. On my tractor, that one hose that does double duty has two colored tie-wraps on it, one indicating its BH connection and one indicating return loop connection.

Hope this helps.

if tie wraps are still stock one hose (pressure) will only have a blue tie wrap and the second hose (the actual return) will have both a blue and yellow tie wraps on it.

 

[GeneV]

Just a thought, make sure the deck height knob is not turned all the way to "deck raised" position.

 

[Dmacleo]

Just a thought, make sure the deck height knob is not turned all the way to "deck raised" position.

only affects drop height will not affect lift height.

It's just the lifting of the mower to fun (I SUSPECT SHE MEANT TO TYPE FULL HERE) it that is not working at all.

its a real pain to hook deck on (which they have done) with the drop limiter wound up. I keep getting caught by that. the GC2400 has the threaded limiter (vs the 1723/1725 notched limiter) and when I screw up I got 2 choices. spin the limiter for a few minutes or just yank up on the 335lb deck.
suspect if someone to watch the rear 3pt arms there would be almost no movement.

 

[GeneV]

only affects drop height will not affect lift height.

Oh I read that wrong, thought she couldn't lower it.

 

[Dmacleo]

Oh I read that wrong, thought she couldn't lower it.

thought same thing myself at first.
so I read a 4th time LOL
that's when I started to think about the backhoe connections and the return line.
had dealer try to bust me over that line, had video proof tractor was only run for 90 seconds with lines not connected and lift was never used.
cause those lines to be connected were leaking on a 2020 gc1723tlb as well as transaxle input shaft leaking.

 

[Jones8935]

I moved it down the floor position before starting. It works!!! Thank you for the help and responses from everyone.

 

[Dmacleo]

guess I was wrong LOL

 

[GeneV]

I moved it down the floor position before starting. It works!!! Thank you for the help and responses from everyone.

I don't quite get what happened there, but glad it all works now for ya.

 

[Dmacleo]

I don't quite get what happened there, but glad it all works now for ya.

almost sounds like the 2 lift links on rear of deck never lowered and connected