GC2410tlb throttle cable frozen

[CasperMe]

I'm sure there's a thread somewhere, the guys on here talk about everything. If you want to have a look at it, come on over. It'll have to wait til spring, though. It's tucked away and snowed in.

Ha! I didn't even notice your location... I'm in Leeds, just up the street. If I can remember I'll private message you in a couple months and make arrangements for a visit. Would love to see one of these things all setup. Got a bunch of tops to chip. Just hate burning stuff when the chips are so useful especially with new home plans.

 

[CasperMe]

The Frozen Throttle Cable was replaced by my dealer Waterman's Farm Machinery, Sabattus, Me, last week. They took the tractor to their shop to give the matter a thorough review. Their mechanic said that only one other unit had reported this problem. Waterman's also replaced one radiator hose as they said that certain S/N machines had a problem with a cable tie being secured too tightly around the hose which would lead to hose failure. (Sorry, I didn't get a pic of that). Weather's still cold and the cable is working fine now.

 

[archerynut]

My 2310 has never frozen either. Must be the new improved version they're having trouble with.

Same here.

 

[CasperMe]

Believe I've identified the source of the problem with moisture entering the Throttle Cable. In first pic note the rather large opening around the Throttle Lever, and in second pic the vertical orientation of the cable. It looks like water could easily track down the lever, through the hole in the housing, then travel across to the top end of the cable. A simple grommet in the housing, or hump in the horizontal shaft (hidden in pics) would probably interrupt water intrusion.

Are there any Massey reps in this forum?

 

[irvingj]

Hmmmm.... mine has the same sort of set-up, but I did notice that the little rubber grommet stayed put as I moved the throttle in and out; it looks like yours has lifted up a bit....

And on mine, there seems to be a good physical gap between where the throttle lever goes in through the side of the panel and the cable itself; are the newer ones maybe a bit "closer" in that regard?...

 

[CasperMe]

I see what you're looking at there at the top end of the cable casing... I just pressed that back down. Seems to be staying. Maybe the dealer didn't seat that completely, but I doubt that would affect water getting in. Over time the center hole on that rubber probably stretches quite a bit. As far as the lever shaft goes, it looks to be close to 4" from wall to the cable linkage. Perhaps I could install a grommet or something on the shaft that would unload water before it gets to the linkage.

 

[JMynes]

Perhaps I could install a grommet or something on the shaft that would unload water before it gets to the linkage.

Good idea. Maybe something as simple as a zip tie around the horizontal part of the shaft? The water should drip there instead of just running beyond and causing mayhem.

 

[CasperMe]

Ooooh, I like that Tanx

 

[boutym]

Old post, but I experienced the same issue with my GC2600. Dealer stores these things outside. First cold snap and the throttle was frozen. Dealer told me the same thing about using a blow dryer and I told them it takes too long to do this, so they ordered a new cable and had it delivered to me. Cable arrived yesterday and will probably change it today or this weekend since it should be warmer. Last night though I had to clear snow and it took nearly an hour to free up the cable to the point I could throttle up. It still wouldn't throttle down, but that wasn't stopping me so I got it to the RPM I wanted and ran with that until it decided to thaw enough to throttle down.

I looked at the new cable this morning and what they should do with these cables since much of the length of it isn't close enough to the engine to get much heat through the cable is to put a nylon or Teflon coating on the cable itself similar to what is done with the better motorcycle and snowmobile cables. This would probably remedy the issue for good.

I'm thinking of pushing as much white lith through the cable sleeve as I can before I put the new cable on.

 

[ray66v]

Grease is not usually the answer in real low temps, unless you have some Lubriplate.

I would use dry graphite powder.

 

[liberty2701]

I just had mine freeze again on my Gc2610. Dealer replaced the cable 1 year ago for the problem. I park mine indoors never leave it outside. The other day I was blowing snow. I left it outside in 15 degree weather for a few hours and it froze again. I removed the cable and attached a piece of fuel line over it with a hose clamp. Filled it with wd40 and used my air nozzle with a rubber tip to make a seal on the fuel line and blew the wd40 through the cable and out the other side like a jet engine. Hopefully this blew out the moisture and added some lube. There is obviously a flaw in the design of the cable for this to happen again.

 

[boutym]

I took my new cable and hosed the crap out of it with silicone lubricant before I put it in. I'm thinking of looking for a way to reroute it closer to the engine so it picks up more heat to help thaw it out while the motor is warming up.

 

[truenorth]

MF GC2410 Snowblower - YouTube

The throttle cable was frozen solid on this tractor. Annoying and shouldn't happen.

 

[boutym]

Old thread but still relevant. I'm constantly experiencing throttle freeze-up on my GC2610. Massey sent me a new cable which didn't do squat. I've tried pushing copious amounts of PB Blaster through the cable and copious amounts of silicone lube. Nothing worked but last night I got to looking at the thing and realized the majority of the cable isn't frozen. In my case it's the cable entrance at the throttle lever where I was finding ice so it would appear that maybe only the first few inches at the lever end are freezing. The primary cause I believe everyone pretty much has figured out is water running down the lever makes its way to the cable and seeps in past the boot. I don't know if it will help but what I did with mine to see if it works is put a wire tie around the lever before the cable attachment point to see if I can get any water to drip from the wire tie and not make it to the cable attach point.

 

[woody49705]

Old thread but still relevant. I'm constantly experiencing throttle freeze-up on my GC2610. Massey sent me a new cable which didn't do squat. I've tried pushing copious amounts of PB Blaster through the cable and copious amounts of silicone lube. Nothing worked but last night I got to looking at the thing and realized the majority of the cable isn't frozen. In my case it's the cable entrance at the throttle lever where I was finding ice so it would appear that maybe only the first few inches at the lever end are freezing. The primary cause I believe everyone pretty much has figured out is water running down the lever makes its way to the cable and seeps in past the boot. I don't know if it will help but what I did with mine to see if it works is put a wire tie around the lever before the cable attachment point to see if I can get any water to drip from the wire tie and not make it to the cable attach point.

I have 07' 2310 and keep it outside and am on cable #4 I believe. I use a pair of mini vise-grip needle nose to pinch the cable at the motor, at the rpm i desire to get the job done.

 

[GC1710]

hmmm....I was plowing in -2F weather and I had to throttle down under the hood (cable was stuck at higher rpms...) I will try and address myself...then ask dealer for a new cable.

 

[bartjoebob]

Purchased GC2410tlb new in November. It was stored outside (like at the dealership) for a couple weeks and since has stayed inside unheated garage. Only use has been in moving a couple buckets of wood every week or so, otherwise it grazes in the garage. Snowblowing I do with my JD 316 for now. So the first cold spell in December I think it was, I go to start the beast and the throttle won't move. Easily traced the issue to the vinyl sheathed cable that connects to the throttle lever from just behind the dash (see pic 1) sweeping down under the engine, then up on the other side where it mounts near the injector (pic 2). Initial call to the dealership was told to just warm it up (takes 40-60 min to thaw). Today on my second call they said they'd order a replacement cable and call me back when it comes in. Expect that'll take care of immediate problem.

My question is, "Has anybody else experienced this problem?" I'm just concerned that it might reoccur. Thoughts??? Lemme have em!!

Brand new 1705 in received in October still under warranty. The cable began freezing up while working outside in 0 to -10 weather in this last cold spell, tractor was suck at about 2000 RPM. Confirmed with the dealer its covered under warranty when I am ready to have to it done. Dealer says they usually inject antifreeze into the cable when the machines new and that helps but this cold snap was a doozey. Most likely some frost got into the cable.

If you follow the cable from the engine it loops down by the front axle and then routes under the frame over to the other side and back up to the handle. Moisture tends to settle in the underside of the cable under the tractor. For the meantime I thawed mine out running a hair dryer over the cable and that got it unstuck. If you have access to a syringe of some sort, you can take the rubber plug off the end of the cable and inject antifreeze or some oil in after thawing it out.

 

[Subiefreak]

I have found answers to several questions over the last few years on here. Thank you all for what you do.
I know this is an old thread but hopefully someone can help me. My throttle cable has froze solid. It may have also broke internally. I keep the tractor in my unheated garage during the winter. While clearing snow with the loader the throttle dropped to idle and then cable and lever wouldn’t move. I can manually move the butterfly lever and the cable moves but not smoothly. The throttle lever is still solid. My local dealer is 50 miles away and not open late enough for me to get there after work.

Is there an aftermarket part that fixes this issue?
Or an revised OEM part?
Does anyone have these part numbers that they’re willing to share?
I appreciate any help you guys can offer.

 

[irvingj]

Bummer. I have a parts book, but it's for my 2310 and I don't think it's the same set-up as yours. You might, to determine for sure if the cable's broken or not, try a hair dryer (or, if you have one, a heat gun) to thaw out the cable first -- then go from there.

Probably most any control cable would work, providing the length is close and the ends could be attached (z-bend, clevis, etc.).

Good luck!

 

[Dmacleo]

if 26xx same as my gc2400 they are pain to replace due to how they run thru grommets then under frame of tractor then back up.
done mine twice since I got tractor in Oct 2020.
my dealer keeps cable for GC series (think they are all same cable) right out front where they can grab w/o stepping away from counter.

yeah agco parts lists 24xx/26xx under same parts book



so cable 6254177M92 which is approx 38$ before tax should fit.