Gear drive vs hydro

[mike194]

sounds like a hydro would just give everyone more time to go home and argue on the internet.

 

[jake98]

can't argue with that...

ps did we really let anybody name a place 'north east south' anything? sounds like you're trying to confuse the cityfolk or somthin...

 

[wushaw]

Y'all have just beat this horse to smitherinees

 

[SPYDERLK]

Don't think a gear drive is stronger. All the power is transferred through the same weak stub axles which do break.
The hydrostat might be far better for insurance against breakage.

Axles on tractors do not break from torque loads. They break from bend loading caused by side loads on tractor or excessive outward offset to widen stance. This is a design deficiency pure and simple if it happens in normal use parameters of the tractor. Breakage of the axle from a torque load would only happen in the case of manufacturing defect or negligent design.
larry

 

[N80]

Y'all have just beat this horse to smitherinees

I agree...and thanks for the help.

 

[MossRoad]

depends on the tractor.. some have them off the engine.. some off of a pump.. some off of the alternator.. As you can guess those are usually tach's with a ground speed chart.. or ring on the tach to show ground speed in a gear, at a specific rpm.. etc.

sounduy

Thanks! So there's a chart around the edge of the tach with different rings for different gears for different RPMS? Anyone got a picture of that. Sounds interesting.

 

[Dargo]

Y'all have just beat this horse to smitherinees

Think they need to borrow my avatar?

 

[MossRoad]

I love seat time like the next guy.. but more free time was what prompted me to trade in a nice 33hp 4wd with 12x4 tranny for a plain 95hp 2wd 8spd. cut mowing time from 6hrs to about 2 hrs.. the 12000$ that 'deal' cost me was well worth the time I gained from not spending an extra 4 hrs per mowing cycle away from other things i needed to do. Here in florida.. mowing cycles can be as often as every 5 days if we are getting proper rain and temps are'nt totally blistering..

soundguy

You and I have had this discussion before... you actually do real work with your machines and most of these folks do not.

 

[MossRoad]

Give me a break. What loader intensive jobs do you have on a daily basis with a tiny tractor that the pounds loaded/minute advantage of HST has a measurable impact on your family life? And while you may fire back some justification for that, and it might even be real and rational, that certainly won't be the case for 99.999% of us who also own tiny little tractors and spend more time arguing about their transmissions than using them. Right?

Wrong!

I've spent many hours doing maintenance on ball diamonds, mowing, brush hogging, snow plowing and moving material from point A to point B. Massive amounts of material. Truck load after truck load of moon dust (granulated limestone) on ball diamonds each year. They are not daily chores, but weekly, monthly and seasonal chores.

I spent 6 years working at the airport. Part of my duties was grounds keeper. Many hours on gear tractors and gear forklifts. I'm here to tell you that ANY job that requires multiple changes in speed and direction are easier on the operator and faster done on a hydrostatic transmission than a gear transmission. Jobs that require brute force to the ground like plowing dirt, or mowing vast expanses of acreage as Soundguy does are better accomplished with the gear.

Yes, you will get more HP for your money with a gear tractor. But there comes a point where more HP is useless, like mowing a half an acre lawn with a 90 HP tractor and a 15' batwing mower.

Get out there and put some machines through their paces. That's the only way you can become a witness. Everything you say about an HST is hearsay. Book smart Vs actual, real life experience.

 

[MossRoad]

As per the rules of the drinking game... I am now schnockerred!!!