generator brands/types

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herm0016

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Looking to purchase a generator. we have lost power 2x in the last couple weeks and we are just getting into snow season. We are also considering buying some property in the mountains where the generator could be useful. we have hot water baseboard, and 2 fridges and a deep freeze. all our lighting is LED. I think we would be fine with 5000 watts or so. i could run my small welder off of that, and it should be fine for a small cabin or yurt in the future.


looking at used and new. is duel fuel worth it? any brands i should avoid? they all look pretty similar. budget is less than 500 bucks.

did find a 8500 watt harbor freight generator in my budget, but kind of want to be able to run on propane as well. worth holding out for that?
 
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If you are storing fuel propane is great. Doesnt go bad in long term storage. Down side it uses more gallons than gas.

The bigger the generator is the heavier they get. Also bigger uses more fuel.
If it wasnt for the heaters a good generator would be a Honda EU2000I. Very dependable and can be easily converted to dual fuel.

Honda does make larger EU series generators as well.
 
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No fewer than 3 or 4 threads on this topic in the last couple of weeks alone. Search generator.
 
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Make sure you have enough watts to run the well if you are not on city water. I have a 6800 running watt generator. I think it is too much power (and thus sucks down more fuel per hour). We have nat gas for heat but need to run the pumps on the boiler. We need 220 to run the well pump. With some simple load management we could get by with well less wattage.

However having the "big" generator, Mrs. The Man does not need to worry about load management.
 
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We had a 4.4 kw Suzuki electric start for a few years operating through a manual transfer switch. Would run lights, TV: small stuff but required shutting everything off to start the well pump. Had to refuel with gasoline about every 8 hours. Got to be old.

Went with a 12.5 kw Isuzu in 2012, and it does the whole house just excluding 4 ton heat pump, carriage house and swimming pool pump. Real fuel sipper at 0.25-0.3 gph. It's a real gem from Central Maine Diesel. Put in a new Gentron auto transfer panel & moved breakers around between its 200 amp panel and the other 200 amp panel.

Ralph
 
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I bought a 10,000 W Duromax for my daughter when they had the eBay sale on them a few years back. It has served them well so far. Ran for a solid week after the last hurricane. It will only actually run at 8,000 watts.

Running it on portable propane tanks would not be practical. The unit I bought used 6 lbs per hour and when the tank got to 3 lbs it didn't have enough pressure to keep running. You would be changing tanks every two hours at that rate.

They have a 4200 watt electric start, dual fuel unit for $579 shipped if that meets your needs.
DuroMax XP525EH 525 Watt Electric Start Dual Fuel Portable Hybrid Generator | eBay
 
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One thing the OP mentioned is hot water baseboard heat,
what type of boiler/water heater does he have and what is the power requirement.
If that freezes up the repair cost start to skyrocket.
If the generator can not power that it would need to be anti freezed.
 
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If you are storing fuel propane is great. Doesnt go bad in long term storage. Down side it uses more gallons than gas.

The bigger the generator is the heavier they get. Also bigger uses more fuel.

True, but fuel usage is more dependent on load than generator size per se. A lightly loaded generator will use less fuel than the same one heavily loaded.
The fact that gasoline doesn't store well is a definite downside. Are you going to make sure you keep a fresh supply on hand at all times, or will it be one of those things you forget until you need it and then have 5 gal of stale gas?

Running it on portable propane tanks would not be practical. The unit I bought used 6 lbs per hour and when the tank got to 3 lbs it didn't have enough pressure to keep running. You would be changing tanks every two hours at that rate.

Does it need to run continuously? We pretty much only use our generator to keep the refrigerator & freezer cold...maybe run it 2 or 3x/day (depending on weather) for a half hour or so. Our hot water is propane, well is gravity fed and we heat with wood so no electricity needed there. LED lanterns work fine for lighting, we can live without tv for the duration.
Even if you need power for any of the above, it wouldn't take a huge lifestyle change to run the generator only when you need to. Obviously, the bigger the tank the better, but how long are power outages where you live?
 
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Dual fuel is a good option. Currently propane is less costly than gas and propane does not go bad. With propane there are no carb issues either.

Changing out tanks is not difficult but not something that is fun to do at below zero in the dark or in the middle of thunderstorm. Even the portable units can be connected to larger tanks and that is worth considering, although it will squish your budget. You can always add a larger tank down the road.

I had a gas Generac 5kW unit for a lot of years and it did the job but I hated it. Hard to start and would need to use ether. Then after using it I had to drain the fuel and run it dry. I ran it with a manual transfer switch to cover critical stuff...only 6 circuits. When I moved here, I decided to back feed the main panel of the house. That can be done safely with an interlock that is easy to install. Still needed to manage the load, but could run any circuit I wanted.

Your budget is low IMHO. Even with back feeding (cheapest way) you will need about $100 for the bits and pieces (interlock, wire and outside plug).

A gas only generator is the only way you can go and stay in budget. Use Stabil in the gas and rotate it every 6 months. A generator is useless with bad gas,
 
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VERY interesting. I have one of those Yanmar 3600 3.7 kw air cooled screamers. VERY RELIABLE when all else fails. Got it free as it needed a rewound stator or rotor (can't remember). I SHOULD have changed the speed to 1800 when it was rewound (If that's possible). I could live with 1.8 kw as a night time set to keep the fridge and freezer cold, lights running.

Did I miss something on the add? Prices given for options, but not for the main unit???

Despite the noise, there is something to be said for a non liquid cooled back-up unit.

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My Stinky Little Diesel Screamer. Used for portable stuff or when all else fails.
 
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It will buy you the Deluxe Panel with meter and you can get the rest later. lol
 
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I'll bet this would do for you: Slow-Turning 5 kW Yanmar Diesel Generator

Ralph

Love fuel efficient and long run time... Central Main has some nice units.

The 67 DB rating would exceed noise limits if mounted permanent... but OK if on a cheap trailer or similar because then it is temporary during an outage.

The minute something is permanent all kinds of city regs kick in.

240 volts on a small genset is a big plus for many...
 
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Bet it would work even for us. Average kw usage is about 2.5. The 5.0 and diesel grunt might work. Our 12.5 kw unit is overkill.

I like the idea of air cooling. Dreading the coolant change on ours in 2022. It's located at the top tier of the little tiered garden plot behind the garage. Don't think there's a spigot on the radiator. Prolly will need to remove the bottom hose and to also remove the block drain. Be a challenge to catch most of it.

Ralph
 
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Thanks. I picked up a generac 7550 exl for a great price. Getting the propane and Nat gas conversion kit. All in about 500. Budget did not include house stuff.
 
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Went with a 12.5 kw Isuzu in 2012, and it does the whole house just excluding 4 ton heat pump, carriage house and swimming pool pump. Real fuel sipper at 0.25-0.3 gph. It's a real gem from Central Maine Diesel. Put in a new Gentron auto transfer panel & moved breakers around between its 200 amp panel and the other 200 amp panel.

Ralph
Ralph,,,, What brand and model number is your generator? Your running 3 times the load my little Honda EU2000I . about the same fuel usage. Might have to step up to a new generator. I have to run a separate generator to run the well pump when needed.
 
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Looking to purchase a generator. we have lost power 2x in the last couple weeks and we are just getting into snow season. We are also considering buying some property in the mountains where the generator could be useful. we have hot water baseboard, and 2 fridges and a deep freeze. all our lighting is LED. I think we would be fine with 5000 watts or so. i could run my small welder off of that, and it should be fine for a small cabin or yurt in the future.


looking at used and new. is duel fuel worth it? any brands i should avoid? they all look pretty similar. budget is less than 500 bucks.

did find a 8500 watt harbor freight generator in my budget, but kind of want to be able to run on propane as well. worth holding out for that?

the more power you generate, the more money it will cost you. The other important consideration is when you buy a low end unit, it will be harder to start the longer you own it. I would avoid Harbor Freight. It might work fine the first couple of times you use it, but it won't work next year.

I'm in Texas and when I lose power, it's in the winter because of ice. Usually it builds up on tree branches and they take out the power lines when they break off. Power can be out for an hour, all day, or even a week.

First thing that I did was get a wood stove. I can keep the house warm all winter from firewood. I can heat water for cooking or bathing on the stove if I have to. I can also grill outside in winter on my gas grill if the power is off.

What I really need electricity for is lights, TV, the Computer, and charging our phones. This is the bare minimum for me and my wife. I do not need to keep the refrigerators or freezer going in winter. They will last a full week with the outside temperatures in the 20's to 40's.

After years of struggling with small engines on lawn mowers and other things, I finally decided that I will only buy Honda. It's more money upfront, but the quality and reliability more them makes it worth the added cost. I spent almost a grand for my little Honda generator that can handle 13 amps and run all day on a tank of gas. It starts every time and it's quiet enough that most people don't even know its running when it's on a 100 foot extension cord for our parties down at the pond. When we lose power, I put it on the porch, fire it up and run an extension cord into the living room. That's where we are during the evenings, and it just takes a minute to plug everything in.

I thought about propane because it's so stable and clean burning. I also thought about diesel, but it's a lot more money. I drain my Honda generator when I'm done with it, or run it until its dry. I never store it with gas in the tank. I usually have a 5 gallon gas can for my lawn mower, or Mule or log splitter, so it's not a big deal to make sure it's full when we know a storm is coming. Worse case is that I have to drive to the gas station to get it filled.
 
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Onan's 12.5KW version with the Isuzu Motor. Project was coming along nicely and got pushed to the back burner in favour of a 7.5 Commercial Diesel Inverter unit, that was supposed to be a quick and easy side project!

Isuzu is the nicest running Diesel engine I own.
 

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