bigtiller
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Huh?:confused3:
Getting a whole house genny installed...
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TCJatko
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I think those alphanumeric series are HAM identificaton designators.
buckeyefarmer
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Since they aren't green eggs, that would be my guess.
grsthegreat
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Depends on how old the units are. And whether there designed as separately derived units
bigtiller
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Best regards to you and buick....... 73 :thumbsup:
buickanddeere
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This is why there is supposed to be only one bond at the power meterto hold the neutral down the near earth potential. Otherwise neutral current will flow from ground rod to ground rod and shock livestock.
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nikdfish
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Mechanicals inspector came by this morning, but looks like it will be tomorrow before the propane guy can get back out to finish his part...
More as the job progresses
Nick
More as the job progresses
Nick
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nikdfish
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The saga continues...
Phase 2(b). The propane folks came back out to finish up their portion of the install. With the new line installed & inspected, now they can update the existing regulators and add the generator supply regulator. The old regulators were working OK, but the tech suggested updating any over 12 years old. Since they were only $50 each, I felt it good insurance.
Replacing the regulator at the tank:
At the house side of the supply line a "T" is added to the line below the new regulator to connect the generator feed:
At the generator, a support is hammered in for the regulator and a connection is made to the generator incorporating a flexible line to handle the vibration while the unit is running. The flex line, supplied with the generator, is installed as a straight section, a bend is not permitted.
The new regulator gets attached to the flex line and the support post. A cut-off valve sits between the supply line and the regulator.
With all connections made, the lines are pressurized and the joints soap tested. One connection needed to be tightened. A gauge is connected to to the regulator and the lines pressurized to 10 lb. and monitored to check for any leak in the old, buried, supply line. Everything is OK.
At this point, all that remains is for the Generac tech to come out for the initial system startup. He will take care of system activation, programming the set points, etc. That has been scheduled for day after tomorrow.
Nick
Phase 2(b). The propane folks came back out to finish up their portion of the install. With the new line installed & inspected, now they can update the existing regulators and add the generator supply regulator. The old regulators were working OK, but the tech suggested updating any over 12 years old. Since they were only $50 each, I felt it good insurance.
Replacing the regulator at the tank:
At the house side of the supply line a "T" is added to the line below the new regulator to connect the generator feed:
At the generator, a support is hammered in for the regulator and a connection is made to the generator incorporating a flexible line to handle the vibration while the unit is running. The flex line, supplied with the generator, is installed as a straight section, a bend is not permitted.
The new regulator gets attached to the flex line and the support post. A cut-off valve sits between the supply line and the regulator.
With all connections made, the lines are pressurized and the joints soap tested. One connection needed to be tightened. A gauge is connected to to the regulator and the lines pressurized to 10 lb. and monitored to check for any leak in the old, buried, supply line. Everything is OK.
At this point, all that remains is for the Generac tech to come out for the initial system startup. He will take care of system activation, programming the set points, etc. That has been scheduled for day after tomorrow.
Nick
HillStreet
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Nice installation. Mine is an 11kw Generac and it was installed in June of this year. House is new, with propane fired boiler, cook stove, and clothes dryer; and also a 1/2 hp well pump.More than enough capacity. Nice to have.
Opti-Mist
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Just got this today. If not too late, ask.
http://view.generac-email.com/?qs=5...d2124b06c31d2e1d1da62659411b71fab43b128378ef7
http://view.generac-email.com/?qs=5...d2124b06c31d2e1d1da62659411b71fab43b128378ef7
Midniteoyl
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Hmm.. I wonder if the payment isnt made until after 8/1, does that qualify?
NC4AB
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Nick -
Beautiful documentation on your install.
I would love to have the auto start / automatic transfer switch but for now we make do with a manual transfer switch and running off a Miller Bobcat 250 welder. Keeps the wood stove / well pump / refrigerator and other necessities running when the power is off.
Hope you never need it but who knows with the NC weather.
73
Beautiful documentation on your install.
I would love to have the auto start / automatic transfer switch but for now we make do with a manual transfer switch and running off a Miller Bobcat 250 welder. Keeps the wood stove / well pump / refrigerator and other necessities running when the power is off.
Hope you never need it but who knows with the NC weather.
73
grsthegreat
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the gen contract has to be signed after aug 1st. Have they already registered the unit?
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How big a propane tank are running off?
k0ua
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k0ua
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Amateur radio station callsigns. Mine is K0UA
k0ua
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Nick, I am impressed with your "antenna farm". ( I popped over to your QRZ page for a look) And I am just flat jealous of your whole house generator install.:thumbsup:
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nikdfish
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nikdfish
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All done. Tech came out today, installed the battery & MobileLink unit, and plugged in the activation code.
Exercise period set for weekly (10A on Saturdays), initial changeover set at 15 seconds rather than the default 5 seconds at my request (we get a fair number of short term dropouts when weather is dicey).
Did a simulated power out (utility breaker on switch turned off), house switched to gen. power in less than 30 seconds. 5 ton heat pump was on a 5 minute lockout at switchover. Lowered the thermostat inside so it would come on for cooling asap & it cranked up as expected as soon as the lockout timed out. (UPS's chirped at heat pump start-up, indicating a momentary voltage dip - but immediately went back to normal wall power). Could not hear any real difference in the engine whether the heat pump was running or not.
Utility power was turned back on at the switch, there was about a 3-5 second delay & the switch relays fired to change back utility power. Generator continued to run a little bit for cool-down then shut off.
There is a 25 hour break in period for the generator, at which point oil & filter get changed. If exercise + outages don't get 25 hours in the first year, a change is done anyway. After that it is done annually or @ 200 hr intervals, whichever comes first.
Nick
Exercise period set for weekly (10A on Saturdays), initial changeover set at 15 seconds rather than the default 5 seconds at my request (we get a fair number of short term dropouts when weather is dicey).
Did a simulated power out (utility breaker on switch turned off), house switched to gen. power in less than 30 seconds. 5 ton heat pump was on a 5 minute lockout at switchover. Lowered the thermostat inside so it would come on for cooling asap & it cranked up as expected as soon as the lockout timed out. (UPS's chirped at heat pump start-up, indicating a momentary voltage dip - but immediately went back to normal wall power). Could not hear any real difference in the engine whether the heat pump was running or not.
Utility power was turned back on at the switch, there was about a 3-5 second delay & the switch relays fired to change back utility power. Generator continued to run a little bit for cool-down then shut off.
There is a 25 hour break in period for the generator, at which point oil & filter get changed. If exercise + outages don't get 25 hours in the first year, a change is done anyway. After that it is done annually or @ 200 hr intervals, whichever comes first.
Nick
dickfoster
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I had a Generac when we moved in but the idiot who owned the house previously had some idiotic manual start and transfer switch thing going where you had to climb under the house to do the transfer. The circuits he picked to power with the generator were just as idiotic. The auto switch and panel were there but he never had them installed. He had to go out of his way to make it stupid and hard to do.
I got tired of the insanity and relocated both breaker panels to the garage and installed the Generac auto start panel as it should have been. Life is much better now. Of course after I got all of that done the power has only gone out once last winter but it did perform flawlessly. Things are much better now whether or not I'm around.
From some of the crap this guy pulled around this place, it's scarey to think that he used to maintain airliners for a living. It's a wonder it wasn't raining airplanes with him on the job.
I got tired of the insanity and relocated both breaker panels to the garage and installed the Generac auto start panel as it should have been. Life is much better now. Of course after I got all of that done the power has only gone out once last winter but it did perform flawlessly. Things are much better now whether or not I'm around.
From some of the crap this guy pulled around this place, it's scarey to think that he used to maintain airliners for a living. It's a wonder it wasn't raining airplanes with him on the job.
