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[Wyobuckaroo]

Going to presume to raise the A frame it is too strait a pull from the top of the A frame to the winch. If there were a little more angle between the two features it might work better.

Good luck
Wyo

 

[Snaker]

There's a lot of oilfield winch trucks around here and usually they're rigged this way...

I'm judging from this picture that the end section of cable (from top of poles to bumper) is too close to being inline with the poles and doesn't have enough angle. One option would be to lift the top (starter lift at each use or permanently raising the rest).

Maybe you could make a lift starter tool for the rear connection point. Say about a 2' steel tube that would attach to the point where the cable end is attached and a hook on top for the cable. That would raise the cable end and give more angle. Just a thought.

The wheels spun a little more. It could be as simple as using a 2'-3' wooden 2x6 or 2x8 and stuff it between the cable end and the bumper to raise the cable angle. I would make some kind of clamp or guide to the cable so it doesn't slip out of place.

 

[rus_geek]

...i don't know why they won't flip forward with the winch.

Just to make sure we're looking at the right end of things, are you saying the winch won't pick the poles up off the headache rack? Or won't flip them forward to stow on the headache rack?

If the former, the other suggestions are right. The cable to the bumper is too in-line with the poles and can't get the leverage to pop them up.

If the latter, I don't think the poles should tip forward to the headache rack without help. It would be too easy to tip under load if that were the case.

-r-

 

[tommu56]

I'm thinking your thrust is inline with the poles it needs to be above them to get it started.

In the rigging from the hook to the top block prop the line up with a 4x4 perpendicular to the poles about 4' above the pole to get it started.

I try and draw something up and attach it.

 

[tommu56]

here is the sketch

 

[jbooth]

I have never used a winch as small as 8000#, but I can't imagine what is going wrong with your set-up. Does the winch run out of power? I think we are over analizing the situation. It has to do with the length of the winch line. Shorten the line and the poles have to go up, stall the winch, or buckle the poles. Lengthen the line and the poles will drop back on the headache rack. It does take some pretty good inital power to start to raise the poles. The lower the poles sit on the headache rack the more power required to raise.

 

[jayste]

I have never used a winch as small as 8000#, but I can't imagine what is going wrong with your set-up. Does the winch run out of power? I think we are over analizing the situation. It has to do with the length of the winch line. Shorten the line and the poles have to go up, stall the winch, or buckle the poles. Lengthen the line and the poles will drop back on the headache rack. It does take some pretty good inital power to start to raise the poles. The lower the poles sit on the headache rack the more power required to raise.

What Jbooth said!:thumbsup: I'd like to see some pics of the set up in question....how about ya'll?

 

[reedentrprz]

the line was too low as replies suggested, i attached to a higher spot and they flip up with ease. thanks to every one that replied!!!!