Global Warming?

[Gale Hawkins]

Hitting March with no snow/ice all winter so global has to be true.

Even bought a grader blade for snow and still have never hitched to it since the box blade sees more general purpose use.

 

[Tollster]

The link posted doesn't identify anything. It's more circular logic saying studies have identified subsidies.

Another big lie without specifics.

I have no trouble finding it in just a few within the link I posted, perhaps you have trouble dealing with the truth or ya just have a problem reading Hoss,(ya may want to have those eyes checked).
Whatever your problem may be,I went a head and posted it below in the event you can read.

http://priceofoil.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/OECD.US_.2009.2010.xlsx

The fact really is the oil industry wants everyone to think renewable energy is not a viable option.....Because they do not own the sun and wind, something they have no control over, making it rather hard to pad their wallets.

Big oil is the lie

 

[tcreeley]

Wow, like a homecoming! Global warming again. It's hard to see anything that isn't right under your nose when you wear a blinkerhood like the horses on the track. The deniers are all here.
Well- been raining here alot in Maine. The robins have been here for 3 weeks or so - a full month ahead of schedule.Extremely mild winter. Last night we had the heaviest snowfall since October 2011.- 6". The cold wind blowing from the west kept it at a balmy 38 degrees. When I plowed, the gravel road, I had to be careful not to grade the roadway at the same time!

Global cooling! What's that!...a Rick Perry story!
Oh well, enjoy the posts. I was tired of Eddie's thread...couldn't believe the convolutions. But that was the denier's view of my posts. No common ground to be found.

Shakespeare's Taming of the Shrew:

KATHARINA
Forward, I pray, since we have come so far,
And be it moon, or sun, or what you please:
An if you please to call it a rush-candle,
Henceforth I vow it shall be so for me.
PETRUCHIO
I say it is the moon.
KATHARINA
I know it is the moon.
PETRUCHIO
Nay, then you lie: it is the blessed sun.
KATHARINA
Then, God be bless'd, it is the blessed sun:
But sun it is not, when you say it is not;
And the moon changes even as your mind.

:laughing::laughing:

 

[Tollster]

Wow, like a homecoming! Global warming again. It's hard to see anything that isn't right under your nose when you wear a blinkerhood like the horses on the track. The deniers are all here.

A majority of the nay sayers are where oil is king,or firmly have their foot in the oil business one way or another, they'll sweat it out this summer.
I am digging the warm weather this spring, kind of worried we'll get that late frost that kill all the fruit tree buds though, last year was the first time in 4 years it didn;t happen here in NEPA.

 

[Egon]

Renewable energy; the country used to run on it with no problems.

Draft animals!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Windships:thumbsup:

Windmills for pumping, grinding etc.:thumbsup:

Waterwheels for grinding, sawing, carding runing the power shaft's in industry.:thumbsup:

Yup, we had renuable resources and made full use of them.:

And the byproducts were valuable to the agricultural industry.

 

[rsewill]

Wow, like a homecoming! Global warming again. It's hard to see anything that isn't right under your nose when you wear a blinkerhood like the horses on the track. The deniers are all here.
Well- been raining here alot in Maine. The robins have been here for 3 weeks or so - a full month ahead of schedule.Extremely mild winter. Last night we had the heaviest snowfall since October 2011.- 6". The cold wind blowing from the west kept it at a balmy 38 degrees. When I plowed, the gravel road, I had to be careful not to grade the roadway at the same time!

Shakespeare's Taming of the Shrew

In spite of your quote from Shakespeare, I want to point out what you describe is weather, not climate. It may be one of the warmest winters in your backyard but Africa is getting snow. And people are dying from the cold on Europe.

Climate change takes place over time and is global in scope. Statistics show that there is climate change. The debate is only over the cause.

 

[tcreeley]

In spite of your quote from Shakespeare, I want to point out what you describe is weather, not climate. It may be one of the warmest winters in your backyard but Africa is getting snow. And people are dying from the cold on Europe.

Climate change takes place over time and is global in scope. Statistics show that there is climate change. The debate is only over the cause.

Whatever you say- you are right!

 

[crash325]

I'm not big on posting links. But some of you just love to post left wing blogs and call them facts. But here are a couple of links that you should look at. Know that you hate to be confused with real facts.

Archived-Articles: About Those Oil Subsidies

President Obama Finances Offshore Drilling in Brazil - WSJ.com

 

[Tollster]

I'm not big on posting links. But some of you just love to post left wing blogs and call them facts. But here are a couple of links that you should look at. Know that you hate to be confused with real facts.

Archived-Articles: About Those Oil Subsidies

President Obama Finances Offshore Drilling in Brazil - WSJ.com

I actually like the fact that you agree the subsidies and taxbreaks to big oil is unacceptable, thanks for pointing out more facts.

Naturally, your "real" facts would only apply to your "right wing" side of the story since they are from a right wing blog, but its a real start seeing that you too view this as a problem.

 

[Hillfarmer]

I don't think anybody is arguing that we could do better on energy issues, but the federal Gov. First drafted the clean water act in 1973 and has made little changes since. Therefore all of the advancements in technology have had slow implementation because a permit could not be acquired. Companies will not invest in research if they do not think they can recoup there investment.

Politician on both sides tend to use our tax dollars to fund research that justifies predetermined objectives. This will never result in sound scientific results.

If the problem with burning fossil fuel is that it traps solar radiation on the planet longer thereby heating the climate, what happens when we build vast solar arrays to trap that same energy?