Go Away GM

[mjarrels]

GM is back in the courts seeking protection from law suits. I wish that GM will just fail and drop off the map. No such thing as too big to fail.

mark

 

[jaotguy]

No , they should just own up to their " mistakes " and do the RIGHT thing ... or have their feet held to the fire ...

then become good corporate people and run the company correctly and treat people like they want to be treated ...

the customer and workers should come before massive profits ....

the mandatory " jail until all the cars are fixed " for any division manager ( or VP) if they knowingly allow "safety" defective cars off the lot or fail to recall them immediately .... they are the ones ultimately responsible for what goes on under them ...

 

[Gary Fowler]

Some folks seem to think the operator of a car has no responsibility for acting safely in an emergency situation. It is all the manufacturers fault whenever a mechanical failure happens and they must pay outrageous sums of money to the affected. It is time we got back to accepting some responsibility for our own actions rather than always blaming someone else.

Does the manufacturer have to spell out that you shouldn't hang an anvil or similar heavy objects from the key ring or it may cause adverse effects? Even so, the key turning off the engine should not be a life and death situation and could be safely managed.
I didn't see anyone wanting to lynch the TOYOTA management folks when they blatantly covered up the brake fault with their cars and refused to make a recall or is it just GM that should be held accountable for any and every item. What about the switch manufacturer, should we shut them down, lock up their managers, throw them in a dark dungeon?

I don't think any company knowingly builds something that will injure or kill someone, but when it happens they all try to protect their interest. That is why we have courts and lawyers to prey upon the injured and make more money on the deal than the injured party, but that is just my opinion.

 

[tcartwri]

Some folks seem to think the operator of a car has no responsibility for acting safely in an emergency situation. It is all the manufacturers fault whenever a mechanical failure happens and they must pay outrageous sums of money to the affected. It is time we got back to accepting some responsibility for our own actions rather than always blaming someone else.

Does the manufacturer have to spell out that you shouldn't hang an anvil or similar heavy objects from the key ring or it may cause adverse effects? Even so, the key turning off the engine should not be a life and death situation and could be safely managed.
I didn't see anyone wanting to lynch the TOYOTA management folks when they blatantly covered up the brake fault with their cars and refused to make a recall or is it just GM that should be held accountable for any and every item. What about the switch manufacturer, should we shut them down, lock up their managers, throw them in a dark dungeon?

I don't think any company knowingly builds something that will injure or kill someone, but when it happens they all try to protect their interest. That is why we have courts and lawyers to prey upon the injured and make more money on the deal than the injured party, but that is just my opinion.

GM knew about the flawed switches for over a decade and made no design changes. That's a problem.

 

[Diamondpilot]

GM knew about the flawed switches for over a decade and made no design changes. That's a problem.

I agree. And Toyota did step up to the plate.

Chris

 

[bigtiller]

GM is back in the courts seeking protection from law suits. I wish that GM will just fail and drop off the map. No such thing as too big to fail.

mark

That is a very selfish wish you have there.

GM employs over 200,000 people in 37 countries.

 

[dodge man]

I don't really want to see GM go under but lets face it they did screw up to some degree here. They can't bury their head in the sand and ignore the fact that people don't hang stuff off their key rings. Were not talking an anvil here either. They design cars to be wrecked don't they? They have to account for the idiots too.

 

[RollingsFarms]

I don't give two boots about GM as a company. I prefer their full size trucks but will never touch another one of their cars. The key stuck in my moms 2008 Malibu and you couldn't get it out. She wasn't driving, it was sitting in the driveway. That's when I told her we were taking that pos and getting something else. It's amazing how good their trucks are but the rest of their vehicle lineup is junk in my opinion.

 

[k0ua]

Well I don't want GM to go away, as I still have one of their trucks!.. I do believe GM has some culpability over the key switch issue, as they knew it was causing wrecks for years and made a conscious decision to not recall. BUT on the other hand I believe consumers need to have a brain before they get behind the wheel of a car also. Several of the wrecks were from "liquored up" drivers that their brain was so fogged with alcohol, they could not react to an emergency restart and not hit a tree. So I have mixed feelings about the situation. Yes GM has some fault and some at least of the drivers have some fault. Yes I know we must build systems for the lowest common denominator, but driving an automobile is a conscious decision you as an individual makes. Much like picking up a firearm, both can kill you if you are stupid.

 

[JJZ 109]

I'm surprised that someone hasn't come up with, "it was the old GM, not us" defense.

 

[Blade Breaker]

I'm surprised that someone hasn't come up with, "it was the old GM, not us" defense.

You beat me to it by 3 minutes. That was so lame saying old GM not new GM. Image if you tried that at work if you messed up bad. That was the old me. Even better try that with your wife

Screw GM. They are never going to stop taking tax payer money until we stop giving it to them.

 

[Blade Breaker]

I'm surprised that someone hasn't come up with, "it was the old GM, not us" defense.

You beat me to it by 3 minutes. That was so lame saying old GM not new GM. Image if you tried that at work if you messed up bad. That was the old me. Even better try that with your wife

Screw GM. They are never going to stop taking tax payer money until we stop giving it to them.

 

[jaotguy]

Much like picking up a firearm, both can kill you if you are stupid.

raise the bar for getting a "standardized" license ...
raise the bar for manufacturers ( someone must be held accountable for decisions made ) ....
then we can start to see progress on all fronts ....

as far as "stupid" , the standardized testing should include a common sense section ... and have them read aloud and sign a form that says " driving is a privilege, not a right ... and may be revoked at any time for foolish behavior that endangers any person " ....

 

[Spindifferent]

GM will only go away when enough people stop buying their defective products.

Add me to the list that will never buy a GM product.

It makes me sad to have to say that because of all of the people who work an honest days labor at GM.

 

[Loadstar]

I kind of think the media picks up what recalls or flaws they want to pickup and run with. There have been worse problems with vehicles that go unspoken of. Then you have the run away toyotas conveniently when GM needs to be painted as a good guy while suckling the tax teat. Then you have the operators... I have had a few situations where the go pedal sticks or complete loss of brakes and I didnt have to get the phone book out to find the nearest trip and fall lawyer.

 

[Blade Breaker]

Agreed! But I do believe those people would get other jobs and other companies would pick up the slack the way the rest of the world works.

 

[Bota4me]

I dont want to see people losing there jobs but...
I will never buy another pos gm product

 

[sld]

I never have and probably never will.

 

[Ford850]

Even if you think no one should have heavy key chains, GM knew about the problem for 10 years. They didn't send warnings to lighten your key chain, or to bring it in if you were concerned. They hid the truth for a decade and let people die. If the heavy key chains are at fault, why do no other manufacturers have this problem? They gambled, and lost, and now they don't think they should pay up on their debt.

 

[Soundguy]

That is a very selfish wish you have there.

GM employs over 200,000 people in 37 countries.

just try those responsible for murder etc. jail them then get the company headed in the correct direction.