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See if you have free play in the clutch linkage with the pedal up so that the pressure plate can fully squeeze the clutch plate. If not adjust it for a little free play right away. Maybe you caught it quick enuf that it hasnt burned up by slipping. IF you caught it quick it should be fine. Mine is still strong at 1200hrs.
larry
 
/ Going slow #22  
Tractors are not too hard to split if you have access to an overhead hoist. I'm sure they will fix you up. Good time for new throwout bearings and anything else internal you want looked at. Little more complicated with your backhoe frame, but you will get a chance to make sure everything is tight when they put it back together. Plus, you don't have a cab.... :) [ look on the bright side ]
 
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Larry,
I had the book out when this started, looking at the free play check. Will do that Friday.

Jerry,
Travis, the salesman that sold me the tractor while at Top Flight and now runs his own dealer with his brother in law, asked me if I was gonna do it myself. Since I don't have the wheeled dollys and overhead hoists, I told him I won't do it myself. Now if I could find a good traveling mechanic that has the equipment, I would go that route.
hugs, Brandi
 
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Brandi,
What do you think caused the clutch to fail with only 740Hrs ? Could it be associated with using the FEL?

Curious as I have several dirt projects pending and some will require using the FEL like a regular loader.
I do have a toothbar that really rips compacted earth.
 
/ Going slow #25  
Jerry,
Travis, the salesman that sold me the tractor while at Top Flight and now runs his own dealer with his brother in law, asked me if I was gonna do it myself. Since I don't have the wheeled dollys and overhead hoists, I told him I won't do it myself. Now if I could find a good traveling mechanic that has the equipment, I would go that route.
hugs, Brandi[/QUOTE]
When I got out of Vietnam the second time, they sent me to Fort Bragg, then to Fort Gordon. I used to drive home to Michigan Friday night, and get back early Sunday night... At my age now, I can't sit in my truck for more than three hours without my butt hurting. So, don't think I will be trying to drive down that far... Sorry.... :)
 
/ Going slow #26  
If you do tear into your tractor.. beg, borrow, or invest in 3 or 4 sets of sawhorses.. and used or new plain interior doors to lay across them for tables. Make one table your tool table. Then divide your disassembly tasks into small enough 'bites' to fit on another table.. with the associated nuts/bolts/special tools on that table. Then move to another step in the process and put everything on the next table. Make notes of weird things you come across that you might forget, and keep the notes with the associated parts. Helps with the orderly reassembly when you get to that process. The tables will come in handy for the rest of your life on other projects and are not that expensive... :)
 
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Brandi, sorry to hear the bad news about the clutch...I'm wondering if maybe you might have a bad seal (either rear engine or trans) that put some oil on the clutches...especially since it started all of a sudden. Anyway keep us informed on your progress. BobG in VA
 
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Guys,
I am starting to believe the problem is my own causing. I just checked free play on the pedal and I didn't "feel" any free play.

Kneedeep,
If it was associated to using the FEL, I would sale it. To me, it is a "regular loader". I work it hard and give it TLC as needed. It needs that now. I bought Mahindra because they are built heavy and tough.
hugs, Brandi
 
/ Going slow #29  
Guys,
I am starting to believe the problem is my own causing. I just checked free play on the pedal and I didn't "feel" any free play.

Kneedeep,
If it was associated to using the FEL, I would sale it. To me, it is a "regular loader". I work it hard and give it TLC as needed. It needs that now. I bought Mahindra because they are built heavy and tough.
hugs, Brandi

Understand- I work my little beast hard but with TLC also. Just curious if you had do anything that you recall that might have caused the clutch issue. Mine seeems to just dig holes with all 4 tires when it won't move forward while filling the bucket in low range. In med range I can stall the motor if taking to big of a "bite",
Good luck with the repair and keep us Mahindraites in the loop on what you find.
 
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If you do tear into your tractor.. beg, borrow, or invest in 3 or 4 sets of sawhorses.. and used or new plain interior doors to lay across them for tables. Make one table your tool table. Then divide your disassembly tasks into small enough 'bites' to fit on another table.. with the associated nuts/bolts/special tools on that table. Then move to another step in the process and put everything on the next table. Make notes of weird things you come across that you might forget, and keep the notes with the associated parts. Helps with the orderly reassembly when you get to that process. The tables will come in handy for the rest of your life on other projects and are not that expensive... :)

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry,:)
Thanks for thinking of traveling down here.:thumbsup: But I (we) would still need hoists and dollies. I know a guy in Maine that had a traveling mechanic come out to his barn and the two of them split his tractor.

You forget I am an Aircraft Mechanic.;) I use milk crates and wide boards for movable tool and material tables near the work at home. We have special built tables for large (heavy) jobs at work. Aircraft Mechanics are resourceful.:D Once I used a golf ball as a tool to assist in a repair.:cool: Cut off broom sticks work great when rebuilding main landing gear struts to slide all the parts off onto in order.

I think the most important part of rebuilding something is the tear down. You have to be sure the order it comes apart, especially hidden parts that are not seem everyday..........like clutches and strut parts. Next most important is to have the room to do it comfortably and not be knocking stuff over as you move around. Having room is also good to help keep parts clean and out of the way.

Popular now at work, for handy tools near your work, are small carts with a drawer or two. About 50% of us hangar mechanics use them now. After all, we are getting older:( and it gets real old pushing tool boxes heavier (and some larger) than small cars to the aircraft and back to our "rest" areas.
Getting older is probably the biggest reason I don't wanna tackle a clutch. When I was younger, I would have, given I have a shop with concrete floor now. Now a days, I'll just work two nights, one at time & a half and the second night at double time.:thumbsup: to pay for the repair. I also hope to barter some flight passes to lower the final cost of the repair. I'll find out in the morning.
hugs, Brandi
 
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Understand- I work my little beast hard but with TLC also. Just curious if you had do anything that you recall that might have caused the clutch issue. Mine seeems to just dig holes with all 4 tires when it won't move forward while filling the bucket in low range. In med range I can stall the motor if taking to big of a "bite",
Good luck with the repair and keep us Mahindraites in the loop on what you find.

Kneedeep,
I'm guessing it would be me not keeping free play in the pedal.
hugs, Brandi
 
/ Going slow #32  
Brandi, I would try to adjust that free play, you may have some life left in that clutch.
 
/ Going slow #33  
Brandi, I would try to adjust that free play, you may have some life left in that clutch.

+1 I would definitely try adjusting and readjusting before committing to split the tractor.
 
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Brandi, I would try to adjust that free play, you may have some life left in that clutch.
Galen,
That is what I decided to do after my last post. That was what I am thinking. I will adjust it tomorrow afternoon.
hugs, Brandi
 
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Brandi you are just to hard on equipment!!! :laughing::laughing: I know what ya mean about tackling yourself. That's what I was facing this spring with the Massey. I could have done it but it but due to my work schedule it would have taken a month or two to get it done. You are also right about not having done it before. You need to pay close attention to disassembly so you don't miss any of those little things that go flying. For me it was a no brainer. Mechanic came and split the tractor, we diagnosed the problem and ordered the parts. When they came in I gave hima a call and he came over and reassembled it. Only hard part for me was swallowing the bill. :eek::eek: But it was better than if I had it done at the dealer. Roving mechanic has lower overhead which is passed on to the customer in LOWER rates!!!:cool2::cool2:

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My Mahindra dealer's service manager says driving a tractor into a dirt pile in higher gears can cause a clutch to go out. I have been going into my pond's spoils clay pile in 4th (first gear mid range) gear and he said that would do it. He said use low range for loading dirt. Since I will be taking the BH subframe off and the loader, I may decide to go ahead and do it myself. Buy a 4 ton floor jack and rent one also and a 3 or 4 ton engine hoist. The engine hoist will be for the FEL frame mount. Ballpark dealer shop would cost........$2500 after I remove the BH subframe. My dealer's going shop rate is $80 an hour.
Gotta go to bed now.
hugs, Brandi
 
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Brandi you are just to hard on equipment!!! :laughing::laughing: I know what ya mean about tackling yourself. That's what I was facing this spring with the Massey. I could have done it but it but due to my work schedule it would have taken a month or two to get it done. You are also right about not having done it before. You need to pay close attention to disassembly so you don't miss any of those little things that go flying. For me it was a no brainer. Mechanic came and split the tractor, we diagnosed the problem and ordered the parts. When they came in I gave hima a call and he came over and reassembled it. Only hard part for me was swallowing the bill. :eek::eek: But it was better than if I had it done at the dealer. Roving mechanic has lower overhead which is passed on to the customer in LOWER rates!!!:cool2::cool2:

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Ed,
I was wondering if you was gonna chime in here. Can you sent that mechanic down here. I think, as I remember, your bill being around $1200. Is that about right?
hugs, Brandi
 
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bindian said:
Ed,
I was wondering if you was gonna chime in here. Can you sent that mechanic down here. I think, as I remember, your bill being around $1200. Is that about right?
hugs, Brandi

Actually the parts bill was just over $1,000.00. The labor was $800.00 which was about 1/2 of what it would have been at the dealer. I think if you paid him travel to get there and back your dealer could double his rate and it would still be cheaper.

I had to split mine due to the PTO coupler failure. While we had it open I had him replace the clutch discs. Yes I have a dual disc clutch. Didn't do the pressure plate it checked out ok. That would have added another $300.00 in parts.
 
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Actually the parts bill was just over $1,000.00. The labor was $800.00 which was about 1/2 of what it would have been at the dealer. I think if you paid him travel to get there and back your dealer could double his rate and it would still be cheaper.

I had to split mine due to the PTO coupler failure. While we had it open I had him replace the clutch discs. Yes I have a dual disc clutch. Didn't do the pressure plate it checked out ok. That would have added another $300.00 in parts.

Ed,
What did Y'all use to support the front and rear halves as Y'all rolled it apart. Two floor jacks? Or did Y'all block up the front and roll the back away from it?
How did Hurricane Sandy affect Y'all? Is Dougster okay? I haven't heard from him?
hugs, Brandi
 
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Ed,
What did Y'all use to support the front and rear halves as Y'all rolled it apart. Two floor jacks? Or did Y'all block up the front and roll the back away from it?
How did Hurricane Sandy affect Y'all? Is Dougster okay? I haven't heard from him?
hugs, Brandi

I wasn't there when he split it but ususlly you block up the rear and slide the front. Make sure you put wedges between the frame and the front axle so it can't piviot. What really works good on the front end is a roller stand. That way you don't have to transfer from jack to stand and back again.

Storm didn't really bother us up here. I don't think were Doug is got hit to bad either. I haven't heard from him in a while I'll have to send off an email to check on him.
 

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