Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot!

   / Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot! #251  
Now this firearm of mine would definitely over penetrate. I assume that a .44 mag or the lower ballistics of the .50AE could still do so. I am looking to sell my Desert Eagle .50AE because it weighs a ton and the ballistics of that round aren't up to what a good .44 mag puts out. For a pistol shooting factory ammo I'd say that the .454 Casull and the .50 magnum round would pretty well be the most powerful readily available but are not particularly good self defense weapons. For a powerful sidearm to be carried for personal protection I prefer the 10mm Corbon offerings in the subcompact Glock 29.
 

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   / Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot! #252  
For a pistol shooting factory ammo I'd say that the .454 Casull and the .50 magnum round would pretty well be the most powerful readily available but are not particularly good self defense weapons. For a powerful sidearm to be carried for personal protection I prefer the 10mm Corbon offerings in the subcompact Glock 29.


I hear the .460 outdoes them both?

soundguy
 
   / Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot! #253  
I guess I am behind the times. Bot one Colt 1911 in 1974 and a Commander in early 80s. don't guess I'll ever change from the 45 ACP for belt guns and the 870 for the blaster.
 
   / Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot! #254  
Nothing wrong with a 1911...that an 870 won't fix!!
David from jax
 
   / Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot! #255  
For a powerful sidearm to be carried for personal protection I prefer the 10mm Corbon offerings in the subcompact Glock 29.

Dargo, excellent choice of weapon and rounds.

My daily carry is a baby Glock in .45ACP. High Velocity jacketed hollowpoint Corbons is my ammo. I carry a mag loaded with "snake shot" too for when I get into "snakey territory" on my place. So far only shot one snake (cotton mouth swimming toward my wife) in 7 years but being prepared makes me feel better.

Pat
 
   / Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot! #256  
My usual carry gun(s) are a tad anemic.. but I'd rather have any gun.. than no gun.

Since it's hot here in florida.. you don't want to wear too many extra or have clothes.. so for summer concealment I usually have a keltec in 32acp.. has a 'wallet' holster.. that's ultra discreet... if I have the clothing options available.. i carry a sig saur p-230 loaded with hydra-shocks. For winter carry i can get away with a compact 45acp. I have considered a nice small-frame-small grip 38 snub.. or 2-shot 38 derenger as a backup boot-holstered gun.

soundguy
 
   / Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot! #257  
Makes you wonder if any of those 'shooter' style video games help any???

soundguy

They might or the might not. :D

Some of the games are kill it if it moves. Not a good "skill" to pick up in a game and apply to real life. :eek:

I do remember a game demo I played years ago that was not a kill everything that moves game. It was police related and had lots of shoot/dont shoot decisions.

So the games MIGHT teach mental decisions, good or bad, but the user would only be moving a mouse and clicking. Not very realistic for muscle memory. Clicking a
virtual mouse in a real gun fight just might be bad. :D

Later,
Dan
 
   / Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot! #258  
I don't have much time for games now.. but do remember playing quite a few that had Non combatants running around, as well as 'hardware' that you were not suposed to shoot.

While the actual mouse or joystick movements wouldn't help any.. the critical decision making process of ID'ing a target and threat assessment should/could help. Couple that with good muscle memory from real-time practice with your carry piece.. and it may help... even if only in the awareness and observation dept.

soundguy
 
   / Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot! #259  
I don't have much time for games now.. but do remember playing quite a few that had Non combatants running around, as well as 'hardware' that you were not suposed to shoot.

While the actual mouse or joystick movements wouldn't help any.. the critical decision making process of ID'ing a target and threat assessment should/could help. Couple that with good muscle memory from real-time practice with your carry piece.. and it may help... even if only in the awareness and observation dept.

soundguy

Soundguy, I will stand in your corner (mostly) on this. I offer the following: My last time back to grad school was in Instructional technology (1994 San Diego State University) as a condition of my employment (thanks for paying my wages, tuition, and books, taxpayers.) I later was co leader of a team of 30 people who engineered training solutions for warfighting systems.

Trade shows I attended were replete with various combat simulators. You go into a booth and pick up a modified M-16 rifle (or whatever, SAW or...) that actually has realistic recoil and sounds and shoot the bad guys on the rear projection screen. All the fog of war was simulated heat mirage, dust, noise, distractions and not all potential targets were bad guys. Some were ladies carrying a baby others were similar looking but carrying a bomb. Get too excited and you take down some buddies with "friendly fire." Pretty good stuff. Taught muscle memory as well as cognitive stuff like decision making.

To a degree the decision making "can be" separated from the motor skill portion. In general any specific "shootem up" game may not teach decision making worth a darn but as I am NOT a gamer I can't say there aren't games that do it well.

So far as the theory goes, moving a mouse cursor on a computer screen onto a picture of a button and clicking on it is about 90% as effective for training purposes as having the real item and pushing the button with your finger.

One of my last development projects was computer based training for the F/A-18 Hornet pilots who were test pilots on a weapons development effort. It was the JSOW (Joint Stand Off Weapon) It was very cost effective to have them set at a computer to learn to program and launch the weapon as opposed to having to power up an aircraft. With appropriate software decision making skills regarding shooting situations could be practiced to good effect on a computer. I can't say what software (games?) wouild be useful. I have not searched for but expect there are COTS programs out there for that purpose.

Pat
 
   / Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot! #260  
Some were ladies carrying a baby others were similar looking but carrying a bomb. Get too excited and you take down some buddies with "friendly fire." Pretty good stuff. Taught muscle memory as well as cognitive stuff like decision making.

Thats the reason that i'm glad that my country is more restrictive when it comes to gun posession... I just know too many people which i would not visit late at night anymore, without yelling that you're coming, before taking the walk to the driveway... Whether they have a crime record or not, just says nothing about a person's ability to make decisions in fractions of a second...

I'm not anti guns, i just know too many friendly, decent people who i dont want to say BOO to when i know they have a gun.... :p


In Holland, we have our own type of fun: ITs a tradition to pop calcium carbide in milk cans at 31 december. Calcium carbide isnt being used in 50 years by the blacksmith to torch steel with the gas that occurs when wetting the calcium carbide, but you dont need a permit to buy it.
As allways, some rednecks need a bigger bang than others, so instead of using a 35 liter milk can, they build a gun:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kk5YUQPNkEw
old 1000 gallon manure tankers are also popular guns ;)
 
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