GR2100/w a Johnny Bucket???

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csr0831

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Has anyone on here had any experance with a Johnny Bucket mounted on a GR2100? I have some loose dirt to move and I can either shovel it in a cart and take it teh 400 feet I need to take it and dump it, or maybe I could scoop it up? I've heard that they work pretty well....just wondering if anyone has seen one used with the GR2100. Thanks in advance. : )

Chris
 
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csr0831 said:
Has anyone on here had any experance with a Johnny Bucket mounted on a GR2100? I have some loose dirt to move and I can either shovel it in a cart and take it teh 400 feet I need to take it and dump it, or maybe I could scoop it up? I've heard that they work pretty well....just wondering if anyone has seen one used with the GR2100. Thanks in advance. : )

Chris
From what I've heard they do nicely but you can't lift very high with them.
There have been a number of post on the board over the years about them.
Do a search here and see what turns up.:cool:
 
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I would not do it. The GR's transmission is unique and I can see excessive slipping on the transmission clutches.
 
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MessickFarmEqu said:
I would not do it. The GR's transmission is unique and I can see excessive slipping on the transmission clutches.

Using the JBJ can't be much different wear and tear wise than using a blade, can it? I've heard that the hydro in the later models of the GR2000 and 2100 is more robust, and is the same unit in the 2010 and 2110. How much more robust are they?
 
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4mula1 said:
Using the JBJ can't be much different wear and tear wise than using a blade, can it? I've heard that the hydro in the later models of the GR2000 and 2100 is more robust, and is the same unit in the 2010 and 2110. How much more robust are they?

I would not say they are more robust. They are just updated to address a few service issues we where running into. The only differences are a few seals, other than that its the same thing.

Pushing light snow with the blade, and crashing the tractor into a pile of dirt are very different tasks. You can try it, but I would not recomend it.
 
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And people ask why I have both a G series and a BX. Yes they both use the same deck and one mows like a race car and the other mows and bags like a Mack truck. If Kubota thought that the front end of the GR could handle added weight they would probably sell a bucket. You need to look into a BX for moving heavy stuff around.

David
Kb7uns
 
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Thanks to everyone for thier replies. I am awear of the limitations of the GR tranny as I have experanced and relayed that in another post. I am also awear of the potential limitations of the front end. As David suggest, if I were going to move any heavy stuff on a regular basis, i would consider anotehr unit. I knowt he JB is not a front end loader and would not use it as one. I am just talking about soem occational use and most of it would be light stuff....possible exception being the dirt, but it is loose and I don't ahve too mcuh of it to do.

Anyway, thanks for everyoens input...I haven't bought one yet.....I also have an older four wheel Gravely...I may consider it for that machine instead. Thanks again! : )
 
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Interesting thread. I own a GR2100, and have been considering a Johnny Bucket as well. I haven't bought one yet, but have almost (but not fully) decided to. Here's how I've been thinking about it:

Weight: The Johnny Bucket weighs about 75 lbs. and has a stated capacity of 200 lbs, for a total weight of 275 lbs. This is a bit heavier than the GR's snowblower attachment. The weight rating of the front axle of the GR is 660 lbs, according to Kubota. After subtracting the estimated weight of the engine and other components sitting over the front axle, there seems to be plenty of capacity left.

Transmission: This is the larger issue, in my opinion. Despite the GR series being a relatively low volume seller compared to some other products in its price class, there's a lot of chatter on the internet about transmission problems including leaks, PTO malfunction, etc. Apparently, Kubota has been addressing these issues on a running basis as they've been identified. I have the parts manual for the GR2100 and 2110, and there are definitely differences in transmission components. The manual I have for the GR2100 shows that some updates were introduced with transmission s/n 10,000, but the GR2110 manual shows even more improvements. I suspect that these updates were made on a running basis, and not all at once with the introduction of the GR2110. The only supporting evidence I have is that I saw one of the early 2110's at a dealer, and the transmission s/n sticker had GR2000/GR2100 marked on it (the s/n was 31xxx, as I recall). Therefore, I suspect some of the very last GR2000 and 2100 tractors had the fully upgraded transmission. All this is speculation on my part, of course, and I could be totally wrong.

I bought my tractor in April of '07, and it has transmission s/n 17xxx. So I know it has some of the updates, but I don't know how many (the "final edition" of the GR2000/2100 parts manual should tell me that, but I don't have it, unfortunately). Given that my intended use of the JB is for moving relatively light loads such as mulch, I assume that there would be somewhat less stress on the tractor than using a blade to move material (again, maybe I'm wrong?).

All that said, Neil's recommendation not to use the JB with the GR2100 gives me some pause. My own dealer was not familiar with the JB and didn't render an opinion beyond a general warning against using non-Kubota-approved implements with this machine.

If you made it this far, thanks for hanging in there. I guess I'm still not any closer to making a decision. Maybe I'll just trade the GR for the new JD x749 - that machine appears to have the best combination of diesel power, tight turning ability, and traction available in a garden tractor. I just wish the list price was 4-5K less!
 
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Rockfist said:
Interesting thread. I own a GR2100, and have been considering a Johnny Bucket as well. I haven't bought one yet, but have almost (but not fully) decided to.
Maybe I'll just trade the GR for the new JD x749 - that machine appears to have the best combination of diesel power, tight turning ability, and traction available in a garden tractor. I just wish the list price was 4-5K less!
You can buy A kubota for about that much less than a JDx749.
I bought a new BX1500 for 7750 and a nice used bx1500 for 5250.
 
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There was soemthing else I was thinking about too. Rockfist brought up the issue about the capicity of the front axle and the total weight of the bucket (loaded) is 275 and that was within the capicity of the axle rating. I am NOT a machinical engineer and I have only a limited understanding of weight transfer and moments of inertia and so on. However, has anyone else noticed how far out in front of the tractor once mounted, that the bucket is? It seems to me that once you load it up the applied force to the tractor's frame and axle might be more then 275 lbs? For example if you hold a 10 lbs weight close to you it is easier to hold then if you hold it an arms length. If I am incorrect in my assumptions, I would appreciate it if someone could set me strighten me out! Thanks guys.
 

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