Grapple 'Bucket vs. Grapple 'Rake"

[chopped]

Hi I was loing at these two attachments and trying to weigh out which is better for my needs,I was wondering if anyone had had use of one and would like to comment.My use is basically, instead of buying a chipper, I could have one of these for less money and maint. I have a spot to put the brush to rot naturally, so it seems like a good fit.
I like the bucket as it has more of a bed to it.(considering other uses). But the rake opens wider in the Jaws.
I think it would come in real handy to hold logs as I cut them to rounds.In which case I might not neet a wide one. I have a 60 inch bucket now, but these also come in 48 inch. So im also considering the 48 inch one for the use id give it.
Any thoughts or comments are surely welcome thanks.

the bucket.
60" LW Root Grapple Bucket $1095.00 | Grapple Bucket Attachments | 60" LW Grapple Bucket | palletforks.com

the rake
60" Root Grapple Rake $1375.00 | Grapple Bucket Attachments | 60" Grapple Rake | palletforks.com

 

[Alpha Dog]

Chopped, I was about to post a very similar question. I'm looking at purchasing a "brush grapple" right now. (Although the terminology where I've been looking is different, everything labeled "bucket" is a solid bottomed bucket, albeit without "sides"), but so far, my research is pointing out that there is a BIG difference in weight between some of these grapple set-ups, as much as 200+ lbs, or about a 50% weight increase. So with 450 versus 650 lbs, (on two I've been thinking about), I think that'll be a big impact on my decision. On the other side, I see a lot of difference in "strength" between them if you are going to use it as a "rake". Right now, I'm willing to give up some "strength" to have the abilty to move more logs and brush and use it less as a "root rake" so I'm leaning towards the "lighter" setup. I will be watching your thread to see what the "experts" on here recommend.

 

[Ed L]

Went through the same delimma a couple years ago, cutting dead Ash trees, the brush was piling up so bad one couldn't move around in the woods. I had used the grapple rake type and while it worked good, small stuff fell through the bars while moving a load and branches were forever poking back at the machine causing the brush to become stuck in the rake. In & out of the loader quite often to remove debris.

Ended up getting the Bobcat industrial grapple bucket, solid back and bottom. Hangers are few an far between, I can also do dirtwork if needed while in the woods without changing attachments. I did add teeth to the bucket so I can rake with it.

As you can see in the pic, there was quite a bit of brush to move.

Ed

 

[1969grandpa]

What size tractor do you have? Is weight an issue? For me, I looked at several and decided on a CA 72" root grapple. I wanted to leave the dirt on the ground and clear everything else. So far, I have not had any lifting issues with my tractor but you do know its there as compared to a regular bucket. I can clear an area and pick up as much as the grapple will hold and put it where I want it.

 

[dal929]

I went with the Split top grapple rake by worksaver - Worksaver Split Grapple for Skid Steer and Front Loader
I've pulled very large rocks from the ground as well as move a number of logs, stumps, branches into piles with it. I've recently cut a number of fields I've never been on before and used the grapple to slide on the ground to help flush out objects that would have hurt the brush hog. I looked at all models out there and finally decided on this one due to the heavy duty build and the split top allowing you to grab odd shaped items.

 

[Don87]

Have any of you looked here: Light weight grapple, big rock capability


http://www.mytractortools.com/index.html

 

[chopped]

they do have a spit one also..
http://stores.homestead.com/hstrial...rapple Bucket Attachments:60" Grapple Bucket#

I like the light weight grapple. wonder if there are any out there for the QA attachments.

 

[Don87]

yes...........Wildcat, Gator/Markham.

 

[1969grandpa]

This is the one that I have. It's a construction attachments 72" weight is 525 lb. I think. I paid $1750 from my Kubota dealer. COMPACT X-TREME DUTY Root Grapple

 

[murphy1244]

This is the one that I have. It's a construction attachments 72" weight is 525 lb. I think. I paid $1750 from my Kubota dealer. COMPACT X-TREME DUTY Root Grapple

How much can you lift?

 

[1969grandpa]

How much can you lift?

1800+ lbs.

 

[kenmac]

Hi I was loing at these two attachments and trying to weigh out which is better for my needs,I was wondering if anyone had had use of one and would like to comment.My use is basically, instead of buying a chipper, I could have one of these for less money and maint. I have a spot to put the brush to rot naturally, so it seems like a good fit.
I like the bucket as it has more of a bed to it.(considering other uses). But the rake opens wider in the Jaws.
I think it would come in real handy to hold logs as I cut them to rounds.In which case I might not neet a wide one. I have a 60 inch bucket now, but these also come in 48 inch. So im also considering the 48 inch one for the use id give it.
Any thoughts or comments are surely welcome thanks.

the bucket.
60" LW Root Grapple Bucket $1095.00 | Grapple Bucket Attachments | 60" LW Grapple Bucket | palletforks.com

the rake
60" Root Grapple Rake $1375.00 | Grapple Bucket Attachments | 60" Grapple Rake | palletforks.com

What size tractor will the grapple be installed on ?

 

[chopped]

What size tractor will the grapple be installed on ?

28 horse power four wheel drive. hydraulic system with a 7.1 gallon capacity and a 7.8 gpm valve flow.
It presently has a 60 inch bucket on front.I'Il probably get a 60 inch whatever I decide on but the 48 inch looks inviting, If Im more looking to just grab stuff. like logs.
Im still back ad forth about the bucket type or rake type.I can see benefits of both.The 'rake' one has a larger opening of the grapple so that is good for brush.Id think.
I have 1/4 inch hose to the front and would have to reduce down the hydraulics. i assume this might just make it slower to open and close.
??It seems like it comes with 1/2 inch lines. Even all the 'regular' lines on my tractor are 3/8....

 

[murphy1244]

1800+ lbs.

-512lbs now.

 

[murphy1244]

1800+ lbs.

According to tractor data you can lift 1300 lbs - the 512 lbs your grapple weighs. Too heavy imop

 

[kenmac]

I added 1 of these Thumb grapple 24" to my 60'' bucket. less weight on the front my 35 hp tractor

 

[PineRidge]

I used a bolt on grapple because I didn't want to give up the use of the bucket but still wanted to be able to lift fallen trees and large rocks. I consider the grapple to be one of the most useful additions made to the tractor.

 

[1969grandpa]

According to tractor data you can lift 1300 lbs - the 512 lbs your grapple weighs. Too heavy imop

What data are you looking at ,Murphy? I got that info from the owners manual. I've been moving everything from telephone poles to as much brush as the grapple will hold and everything in between and have has no problems lifting anything. It struggled a little on a big stump with roots and dirt but only because I couldn't get a good grip on it. I had to carry it really low. Aside of that, this is a 72", the OP is looking at a smaller grapple and you'll be hard pressed to find one much lighter than 512 lbs.

From the Kubota website "FRONT LOADER PACKAGE (1,865 LIFT CAPACITY AT PIVOT PIN)"

 

[murphy1244]

What data are you looking at ,Murphy? I got that info from the owners manual. I've been moving everything from telephone poles to as much brush as the grapple will hold and everything in between and have has no problems lifting anything. It struggled a little on a big stump with roots and dirt but only because I couldn't get a good grip on it. I had to carry it really low. Aside of that, this is a 72", the OP is looking at a smaller grapple and you'll be hard pressed to find one much lighter than 512 lbs.

From the Kubota website "FRONT LOADER PACKAGE (1,865 LIFT CAPACITY AT PIVOT PIN)"

From tractordata.com Lift to full height (at 500mm): 1,360 lbs [616 kg What loader do you have?

 

[chopped]

Just wondering , when the rate lifting capoacity is that with any bucket all? Mine weights aroud 450. and I figure it wouldnt be any difference with the grapple.The bucket would be off when I use the grapple.
I also like the thumb idea.its refreshed my mind now.
I might consider that.thanks for jogging my mind lol